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RE: #project-smackdown week 2 report

in #project-smackdown7 years ago (edited)

It makes you look a lot cleaner the way you currently do it Jerry =)

Selfvotes, especially in cases where the vote seemed only to be cast to get the money, have always been a signifier to me of the likely psychological focus of the commenter. When someone selfupvotes, that makes me a lot less likely to vote for them unless others also voted and the comment really provided me direcly/indirectly with huge value. If everyone prioritized voting for himself rather than others, what kind of "social" network would we end up with after all?

Self-promotion has been a recent argument to keep selfvoting, as to a certain extent the promotion opportunity may be seen as adding investment value. In my opinion there's nothing dodgy about that argument, but there could be developed better ways of using this function that doesn't also give direct rewards in Steem or SBD.

However I should say that this issue is far more complex than most people realize (although I think you actually do realize much of it as I read two posts from you about selfvoting) and involves the risk of a "sybil" attack. That is, in other words, the risks associated with creating multiple accounts and, in the least bad scenario, of making a fortune through bots while slowly depreciation the value of the network. In worst case, attacking the network to strenghten a competitor. While I can't calculate how big this risk is as of today, it certainly exists.

What's worse is that trying to fix it, if not done with extreme care, could easily make it worse. So that's why I personally think the bot is a good first step to signal the problem to users and to put some psychological pressure on big upvoters, but next will have to be a much harder discussion of how to significantly block sybil attacks. This issue is so hard in fact, that @ dan used it as an argument to allow selfvotes in order to somewhat counter the use of multiple accounts.

My wish is that the community will at some point start to discuss these risks more deeply and come up with a real solution, not merely trying to push it into the future with minor tweaks - even as I of course would accept any improvement.

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Love your exploration of this in depth because of the conclusion we need to keep self upvotes to limit the value of making duplicate accounts! When I started out on Steemit, I upvoted myself a lot until I realized it felt better to give for others. Self upvoting presents a great opportunity for most of us to learn that we feel better giving to others than to ourselves! Still it is so tempting to drop that upvote on myself and I appreciate you helping me remember to save my upvotes for others!

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