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RE: Porn on Steemit - How I Am Approaching It
If your flagging content tagged NSFW on an uncensored platform your deserved to be flagged to -7 yourself.
If your flagging content tagged NSFW on an uncensored platform your deserved to be flagged to -7 yourself.
unless it is in the thumbnail in the main list and people see it without opting in. You are correct though if the thumbnail is not NSFW and the post is tagged NSFW it should be left alone. Though a lot of them I just looked at were also potentially copyrighted things... some clearly labeled Playboy and such.
Not sure if we want lawsuits killing us before we get too big to kill.
Just because the front end hasn't been developed for NSFW content support yet doesn't give you the right to false flag content because of a thumbnail. That is censorship pure and simple. I wish there were flag overrides and steem power penalties for such false flags implemented.
It is known if the thumbnail is NSFW it is going to get flagged. YOu also shouldn't expect to be able to force that upon people against their wishes. You are correct there is no way to do it now, but I've seen those enforcing things warn of this. So your opinion isn't going to change it. I do not think people should be flagging NSFW posts that are clearly marked and the initial thumbnail is not offensive. Allow people to opt in. Also porn does NOT bother me, but I respect the rights of other people not to see it.
EDIT: I saw a 14 year old doing an #introduceyourself a couple of weeks ago, and there are also religious people, and even perhaps others. It also appears some of the content I looked at is copyrighted. That could open a can of worms before we are ready to fight off the big fish that come looking.
First I've ever heard of it. If the post is tagged NSFW it should be fine. You don't get to choose if there is a thumbnail or not or pick which pictures are used. I've had it use the 3rd pic in a post before. I believe the devs do have plans to give you the option to enable/disable nsfw content. It's beta so for now you just have to live with it. That's what an uncensored platform is.
Yeah I edited my response while you were typing yours...
As to when I heard about the thumbnail. the first week I was here when animated GIFs were still working in the thumbnail (seems to have changed) there was a pretty explicit animated GIF blow job floating around out there. It was actually the first time I ever saw a post with negative votes. I didn't know the flag existed, so I was like "how is that negative?" and that's when they told me where it was and why it was flagged.
Nesting limit... thumbnail is always the first picture. So post a picture with some clothes on, or something as the first one... and the thumbnail will be safe.
EDIT: I've only had it choose the third picture if I posted it and that third picture was the 1st. Then I edited it and added more photos before that. It stuck with the original one. That doesn't mean it can't happen. I just haven't seen it happen. Yes and I agree on the BETA thing. It will be addressed.
It's not always the first picture. https://steemit.com/introduceyourself/@fubar-bdhr/diaspora-shattered-armistice-battlestar-galactica-space-combat-simulator its the third pic. I had to edit it several times to try to get the right pic to show and move things around.
I agree. I will not flag porn posts, so long as they are titled NSFW and do not include the image in the thumbnail. The thumbnail aspect of it is what set me off, and after thinking about all these replies, this seems like a much more reasonable course of action.
You can't tell it not to put an image in the thumbnail or even specify what image it uses.
I know that I can't tell people what to post. This is why I titled this post, "how I am approaching it". They can do what they want, I can do what I want. Also, I am providing transparency to my decision. I could have just downvoted like crazy and not said anything, at least I am being up front with my approach, while simultaneously being open to the fact that I may be wrong.
Pornographic thumbnails that say NSFW don't cut it, IMO. Voting is subjective, and at the end of the day I am just trying my best to bring value to the platform, how I see fit.
Voting is not supposed to be subjective it's supposed to be reserved for special cases. Plagiarism, Spam, NSFW not tagged properly. Not for if you can see the NSFW with the system currently in beta.
Well, we're going to have to disagree. There are no rules to voting. This is why I made my post outlining how I would be voting. I made this post to continue to be as transparent as possible with my flagging. And, as I said, I am open to changing my position, but I've yet to see a valid argument.
As I said, I am not censoring, the content is still on the blockchain, I am simply trying to reduce its visibility on the Steemit site. SteemPorn can better open those windows up someday.
Do you think the users joining this site are joining for the porn? I don't.
Sorry, @fubar-bdhr, I can't reply below, so I'll reply here:
I'm not calling for censorship. It's still on the blockchain. In full. You can go see it at steemd.com, freely.
I came here to get away from censorship only to find people like you calling for it.
But no one using steemit can that's a big problem when steemit is supposed to be uncensored. How would you feel if a group of people agnostics decided to flag any post containing a religions thumbnail? How about vegans flaggina all posts with thumbnails of farm animals or cooked meat?
Also, I don't believe that I am censoring anyone. Their content is still on the blockchain, and as @dwinblood pointed out, can be viewed from other windows. I am merely making it less visible on Steemit, because I feel it is best for Steemit. Please let me know how this perspective is wrong, because I will stop if I am indeed wrong.
Steemit is advertised as uncensored and you are censoring content I don't see how it can be more blatantly obvious than that.
If it's still visible on the blockchain, then how is that censorship? I am reducing visibility on Steemit in an attempt to discourage that behavior. I want this site to cater to everyone, but at the same time I know the masses will be more hesitant to join if this become a new porn hub. This is why we need different windows, as @dwinblood said, to the steem blockchain that can view niche content, like porn, that doesn't fit Steemit's culture.
I agree.