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RE: Scariest deception going on.

in #pope6 years ago

Where is this quote from? I have searched for the Decretal, de Tranlat. Episcop, Cap, and I can only find websites that say the Pope is Antichrist. Is there an actual document that Catholics read that says this? If so, How can I find it so I can read it in context?

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I can't find it from a Catholic source, just from sources "exposing" Catholics. I'm not a Catholic, but I dialog with them all the time, and they have an enormous amount of their stuff online.

The link you posted appears to be a seventh day Adventist site, not a Catholic one. The site is a little deceptive as well. For one thing, I can't find The Roman Decretalia anywhere online except 7DA sites, and I was raised and educated Catholic, have never heard of it. For another, the "Catechism" the Catholic Church uses is titled "Catechism of the Catholic Church," not “Catholic Catechism of Christian Religion.” I can't find that title anywhere on the Internet either. The quotes attributed to it are only found on the site you linked to, which is weird because the entire Catholic Catechism is available online for free.

There are lots of things to criticism the Catholics about, but it's important to be honest when doing so. Your sources do not appear to be real, and even if they are they do not appear to be mainstream Catholic sources. For your reference, you can find the Catechism here and the Code of Cannon Law here

You should be more careful when "calling out deception" not to use deceptive sources. If you claim Catholics teach something, you really need to get it from their source. How would you feel If I posted Catholic material abuut Seventh Day Adventists and what they teach?

Well, again I can't find any original source material for that. There are some Catholic forums where the Catholics are asking each other if they had ever heard of the "dictionary" cited, and none of them had. This is just poor research methodology, and it's actually slander. You need to post the source material if you are going to say "Catholics teach this," and really, it needs to be something that Catholics actually use.

It seems to me that you are just going from one anti-Catholic site to the next looking for ammo, but you haven't bothered looking in the actual sources they Catholics use, which I linked to so you could do that. Why? Do you not see a problem with using obscure texts as a source to claim that "Catholics teach" something, when they have their actual sources posted publicly?

What is your angle, anyway? There are plenty of things in the ACTUAL Catholic sources you could be using to criticize the Catholics, why would you use this stuff that only appears on websites dedicated to Sabbatarianism?

I maintain that this is flat out dishonest. Produce an original text, or stop using the "source." Or, admit you are biased and have an agenda that you are trying to push even at the expense of honesty.

The quotes are from a ecclesiastical dictionary that is referenced many times on the sites provided. But here is the change in the laws so that you know who the dishonest one is. If you will compare the two images, you will notice changes to the laws of God.
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I agree that the Ten Commandments are numbered differently in Catholicism, but there isn't a numbering scheme in the Bible, so it's not really dishonest. Both schemes leave a bunch of words out, so you can use the same logic to call them bothe dishonest if you want to be that way.

Again, the sites you linked to are biased sources that do not link to the original source material. They cannot be trusted to demonstrate Catholic teaching. Why can't you find it on the OFFICIAL sources I linked for you? Because it's not there, probably. This is like using quotes from a Nazi website saying the Jews run the world, without the Nazi's even linking to the relevant quotes... Can't you see a problem? I can't verify that the quotes you posted are legitimate, accurately represented, or even relevant to Catholicism. Can you? Where is the source material that I can compare the quote to? Can I buy it on Amazon? Is it going to be at the Library? Is it at the Catholic bookstore? IT COULD BE ENTIRELY MADE UP!

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