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Socialism is only profitable to the politburo as they rape the country they lead. Putin is one of the worlds richest. The rest of the country gets the misery end of that stick.

Certainly the equivalent, in Venezuela, to the politburo are those who have the money.

Equating Venezuela with socialism is something a 3rd grader would do lmfao

I suppose if someone in 3rd grade knew about economics, socialism would not exist.

Socialism is the future of democracy, like it or not.

Is the dictatorship of the proletariat the future of democracy?

socialism and dictators aren't equivalent. Again, this is basic stuff, 3rd graders need not apply.

actual democratic socialist governments are about working for the people by the people. Corporate america is more of a dictatorship than most of the developed european countries.

Again, this is basic stuff, 3rd graders need not apply.

Don't tell me, public school? I'm glad I did not attend the 3rd grade there.

According to you, Venezuela is not socialism but Western European countries do?

Ok.

I never said venezuela isn't socialistic, I said claiming that it is ideal socialism and not an isolated instance of bad issues stemming from principly unsocialistic policies is something a child would do.

Actual sustainable socialistic countries do not have dictators that make all the rules. Democratic Socialism, again, is by the people, for the people. Not by the leader, for the rich which is what Venezuela is for the most part.

Well, I don't say that Venezuela is the ideal socialism, in fact, I don't even believe that ideal socialism, or ideal capitalism, or any other system or ideology, in its ideal form, can exist in practice.

But what you say that democratic socialism is by the people and for the people, is what those who supported the Venezuelan government before the crisis said so well. In fact, public education; public health; the establishment of "fair prices" by law; the nationalization of banks and companies; an agrarian reform to deliver arable land to people; taxes of more than 50% to large private and almost null to the lower class; free delivery of more than a million homes; as well as tablets, computers, and school supplies for public school students; the creation of educational centers and public health in the poorest neighborhoods; water, gas, electricity and even internet services practically free (for less than a penny); including delivering cars, telephones, computers subsidized by the State to the most needy; and much of this done through communal organizing mechanism, that is to say, through the "organized people"; it's seems to me quite "socialist" measures, and added to the fact that Hugo Chávez won a large amount of elections, I think we could say perfectly well that this is a kind of social democracy.

I don't believe that the socialism of which you speak is very different from that.

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