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RE: My Ideology: I thought I was a liberal national socialist - turns out it is called libertarian socialism

in #politics7 years ago

BUI can be done on a small scale tho :). I am against insurance in general, I believe in case of emergency people and doctors will help, there is no need for a centralized system to do that, just the possibility..

Smallism sounds like an interesting Ideology, thanks for the recommendation.

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Insurance is actually a wonderful system when done properly. And it's the only alternative to centralized system. The question is that of incentives. Currently, the incentives for all parties involved in health care, are horribly out of alignment.

a thing I should have touched on is that I want people to have some sort of stake in their community like investors.

I think it is much better if most visits to the doctor are not covered by insurance. If you would have to pay him 100$ you would not be pleased with a generic 5-minute check up.

If there is an emergency I think every doctor and human will helpif he gets the possibility to do so. They wont open their checkbooks and cross arms if a fellow human is bleeding to death. That is not what humans do.

Now, that. Is exactly, what Smallism.org is all about :)

We're looking for people to help develop the system as the core people are very part time due to Ph.D research on decentralization but if you like the idea and can help have a look at the about us section

For the second part. You're expecting the doctor to do something for nothing, and I had this conversation with some one about education and teaching. Doctors and teachers have to eat. There are better ways of achieving these goals.

I think people should be rewarded for helping society/the people around them. But again I think we only need the possibility rather than a system. It is in human nature to show gratitude - nobody needs to be forced to do it, in my opinion.

Pay, is a reward for helping. How about I employ you on a 'possibility' of paying you?

How about I cook dinner for you without letting you pay for every bite you take?

How are you going to pay for the food? or will somebody just give it to you?

You're going down the road of denial of scarcity. Your ideas work wonderfully on the Enterprise, where the replicator can make anything you want without limits. But this is the real world, where there is only so much 'stuff'

This guy summed it up a little better than me, I was legitimately pissed when I saw this video after writing the article. It is very much in line of what I wanted to express with this article in regards of the libertarianism vs socialism debate.

"We have our own terms for libertarianism and socialism that are different from the mainstream" - This tells you everything you need to know about socialism.

Borrowing from Orwell, doublethink - the ability to hold to conflicting views at the same time.

At 2:30 he wants worker controlled companies, but there is nothing stopping workers from starting or buying companies, this is a system called capitalism. It happens a lot. A couple of guys working at a firm say to themselves, "you know what, we could do this better", and they do. They leave the firm and start up in competition with their old firm. Often taking customers with them. That's called progress. The old firm adapts, improves it's offerings, or dies. Ce La Vie.

What he really wants, is workers to take for free, the rewards of the person who took the risks to start the business. That's the redistribution of intellectual property. That's socialsm of the mind. I'm trying to start a business. I've spent 5 years developing the idea, gaining the knowledge to make it feasiable. Talked to hundred of people to try and gain support and funding, and now he wants me to share any rewards (but not the risk) with the people I pay to do jobs for me. People who I can replace because they only do what I have told them to do at a certain quality (or I can sack them). What justification do you have for me to share my work with a shop girl?

Unfortunately, as the Spanish found out post 1936, the workers are generally not very good at running businesses because they want more pay and more perks. This means the company fails to put resources where quality and efficiency are improved and the firm gains market share, and because the firm fails, everyone loses (and it's never the workers fault).

This, in Spain, led to Fasicsm. You pays your money.

There are very few examples of worker run companies existing for very long. There was a coffee shop that tried this model that closed recently for exactly these reasons. Customers would wait hours for a sandwich, workers would have extremely long breaks or would choose their own hours meaning the customers wouldn't know when the shop was even open. You're welcome to run the business you want start, that way.

The one model that has had some success is of course the Coop model. Which in the UK was doing very well under the John Lewis brand. Then they put a meth headed baptist preacher socialist in charge, and prompty went bankrupt. Ce La Vie

I read some and I agree with most stated, especially the notion of the "optimal size of a team". There are also a few points I disagree on like "Socialism creates slavery", but I think that depends on the definition of the word socialism.

I think one big thing you need is a symbol. I don't know nothing about arts, but maybe @kralizec or @oendertuerk can help you, for a small fee of course. They are capitalists as well ;P

You need to do more research into what socialism actually is, and more importantly where it leads. Check out Stefan Molyneux, Sargon of Akkad on Youtube for very detailed analyses. I've spent the last three years wondering around Asia which was blighted by socialism for many years, it is horrific. Long story short, the Economics doesn't work, people get unhappy, the government loses control, kills people who are unhappy because they critisize the government who will not relinquish the power they have because socialism.

Guys, if you like what I'm trying to start here, I need some help getting the method and message out. @kralizec @oendertuerk. Smallism.org

People can do it better for themselves.

I do not need to do more research and Sargon even describes himself a left winger btw. I can define socialism for myself, I dont need to justify the action of people who abused and mislead the movement ;)

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