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RE: The Last Leg of Communism

in #politics7 years ago

You are dishonestly conflating voluntarism with pacifism

No, I'm not. You were the one to state that no anarchic country has lasted because someone always comes in and takes over right away.

If government went away, in the US you'd have the KKK deciding it was time to commit ethnic cleansing, the Dominionists deciding it was time to set up a theocracy, and corporations with more money than some countries that could set up their own mercenary forces to control areas.

When governments collapse you don't get voluntaryism, you get warlords vying for power.

Voluntaryism then depends on all these groups deciding not to try and be the ones in control so they can have all the wealth and advantages of power. This is exactly the same as how communism would work if people didn't stack the system to have all the advantages of wealth and power.

Capitalism doesn't give sovereignty to anyone, it just gives power to those with the most money.

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No, I'm not. You were the one to state that no anarchic country has lasted because someone always comes in and takes over right away.

No I did not, I said that no pacifists society has lasted since it either got wiped out or taken over by an agressive tribe.

If government went away, in the US you'd have the KKK deciding it was time to commit ethnic cleansing, the Dominionists deciding it was time to set up a theocracy, and corporations with more money than some countries that could set up their own mercenary forces to control areas.

Yes that is true, that is why liberty has to be constructed first in the legal confines that we have today. I agree that removing the Government now would be equal to taking away the drugs from a drug addict zombie, it will cause more harm that good.

However some of the reckless spendings has to be stopped, taxes need to be lowered, and slowly but steadily liberty has to be brought back.

When governments collapse you don't get voluntaryism, you get warlords vying for power.

You get the same inside the Government. But if people had the means to defend themselves against this warlord tribalist events, then we would not be in this position in the first place.

Perhaps technology can find a way.

Capitalism doesn't give sovereignty to anyone, it just gives power to those with the most money.

It does.

Farmers in the USA are trying to claim allodial title for their farmland. That is sovereignty, at least partial until of course the taxes and other nasty things go away.

That is literally the opposite of collectivized farming, where everyone is a serf of the State.

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