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RE: Are immigrants more likely to become terrorists?
The Holy inquisition in 9-12 centures could kill thousands in the name of Christ. Islam is the youngest among Christianity Buddhism and Judaism. It can explain, but not justify Islamic extremism.
Police can afraid to enter dangerous areas not only because of the religion of its inhabitants - eg. Latin districts in California or Christiania in Denmark.
This is the most stupid argument I can think of. And also the most dangerous one: appealing to collective responsibility and trying to invoke collective guilt. Quite a lot of people have been killed due to this kind of thinking. It's easy to start, and hard to stop.
It is not the argument, it is example. Question was did the christians kill in the name of Christ - yes, they did. Can it justify islamic terror - no, just can explain terror motivation from evolution point of view
No, the question was: "Are there any christian terrorists that kill in the name of Jesus?". Present tense, not past.
How does inquisition explain terror motivation from evolution point of view? Please elaborate.
Christianity at certain stages tried to spread its influence using force and terror. The Inquisition is an example of this stage - Crusades, struggle against heretics, conquistadors. Islam is the youngest religion of the above mentioned, so a propensity for terror can be part of its evolution, but not its essence.
Perfect. Let's continue your explanation. I'll give you one more example - it involves the white man being guilty, so you should be pleased.
Europeans arriving to America in the 16th & 17th century and wiping out the natives almost entirely (mostly due to diseases that they brought). And a similar story for Australia.
What's the conclusion of all those examples (both yours and mine)? It's this: things like religion or immigration can go horribly wrong. The unknown can sometimes be beneficial but sometimes it can be disastrous. People have evolved to be afraid. And fear plays an important role: those who were not afraid enough did not survive.
During the Inquisition - did the Muslim people set out immigration polices and invite the Europeans to live among them? I guess they were wise enough not to do that. They were scared and it was for a good reason.
So why are you so eager to "explain" one side of the story and dismiss the other? Why don't you explain the validity of fear of foreigners? Instead of shaming those who feel it and dismissing them as uneducated bigots.
Well, it is not a pleasure for me to blame any man for anything just because of his religion or color differ ( including whites and cristians). And I dont consider any scared person to be uneducated bigot. But this approach when any foreign muslim is concidered to be potential terrorist really humper to the process of naturalisation / assimilation. You ask why I dont want explain the right to fear - because in my humble opinion, fear can help someone to survive, but can not solve his problem.
You guys seem to be completely detached from the reality outside your brain. You just live in a theoretical fairy-tale where everyone is a teddy bear.
Every human being has a potential to be a dangerous monster. In order to be good first you need to confront your shadow, or your evil side.
Fear is an essential part of you. It keeps you alert. When someone wants to hurt you, you need to watch out, not "solve problems".
This explains nicely why Muslims want to migrate to Europe so badly. Because they think we are quite naive. And unfortunately, in most cases they are right.
) It was really good about teddy bear and fairy tale.))
But I think it is to late to fear, EU should had been feared when developed immigration rules. Now it is time to solve the problem. I have not been in europe about ten years. And unfortunatly I have seen big difference beetween 2008 and 2017.
Why did the crusades happen? Have you ever thought about that? Or have you just decided in your own mind it was the evil white man who all of a sudden decided he was going to go out and slaughter arabs? Europe had been under siege by Islam for 500 years. Islam had taken over most of Italy, Spain, half of France and was knocking on the doors of Vienna. (The gates of Vienna) Europeans had been watching this take over silencly, not retaliating. Now they had had enough. Arabs were taking hundreds of thousands of european slaves to brutal living conditions in foreign countries. If you look at the number of battles initiated by arabs throughout the centuries vs the crusades, the crusades account for very little of the battles in this era. Youtube "why we are afraid" and watch the lecture.
not 2 mention the war that has claimed millions of Muslims......since 2001