The Immigration Debate | Adam Kokesh and Stefan Molyneux

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One of the most contentious divides in the libertarian community centers around immigration, borders and "the freedom of moment" question. Adam Kokesh joins Stefan Molyneux to discuss immigration and debate disagreements about the most essential question for the future of western civilization.

Adam Kokesh is the author of the book “Freedom” and former host of Adam Vs. The Man on RT.

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What I think about this debate: https://steemit.com/dtube/@lasseehlers/htvlz1rf

Just finished watching it.
Great debate, but Stefan definitely had the better arguments.
Basically Adam had lost when he had admitted, that he has no skin in the game (pays no taxes not kids, etc.)
It is the same over here in Germany, nearly 100% of the people who embrace third world immigration have no children, or if they have children they send them to private schools, they live in areas with a 100% German population, etc.

He most definitely did, I think he's going to look back and regret it. I think Stefan delivered the KO when he pointed out how Kokesh supported Brexit but was against Stef's support for US borders.

Funny how he pointed out that an "independent" California would be better... But isn't that the "collectivism" he's railing against?

Kokesh got creamed.

Hopefully he'll listen back to the debate and adjust his views, it sounds like this gentleman has a lot of influence and it would be very damaging for his inconsistent stance on immigration to spread to others.

Stefan never says which demographic was (and still is) dominant when the massive, expansionary, education-monopolizing, world-bestriding, permanent welfare-warfare, centralized, surveillance state/empire that is the USA was CREATED (and CONTINUED) ...so I will!

The dominant voting demographic when the major enabling legislation of the early-mid 20th century (Federal Reserve Act, Income Tax Amendment, Direct Election of Senators Amendment, New Deal-era Legislation/EOs, Great Society-era Legislation) for the Total State was enacted was WHITE, CHRISTIAN, SOCIALLY-CONSERVATIVE MEN.

Ironically, this same demographic was also in force when the 1965 Immigration Act was passed, LOL. Also for every act which has lowered voting-standards--now any idiot can vote if they've achieved surviving until 18. Also for the mandated universal legalization of abortion. Also for the numerous undeclared wars since WWII & the election of the absolutely awful Big Govt. 'Conservative' Richard Nixon (who created the EPA, lol)...so much for whites & their love of "muh limited govt!"

The cancerous growth of the Total State has continued, unabated, despite the USA being in a 'Conservative Revolution' since Big Govt. 'Conservative' Reagan's landslide wins of 1980 & 1984, the GOP takeover of congress in the 1990's, the total GOP takeover of govt. under GW Bush, the Tea Party 'insurgency' under Obama, and, now, yet another GOP total takeover of govt. under Trump.

Stef can blame "dumb brown people", he can make the ludicrous claim that white people (in particular men) "want smaller govt." (which they proved by overwhelmingly supporting Ron Paul in the 2008 & 2012 GOP Primaries--NOT!), he can make the even more retarded claim that voting-in Republican majorities effects smaller govt., but the awful truth is that there is ZERO evidence that his desired white demographic majority (whites are STILL the majority NOW, btw) has or will produce voting outcomes which lead to smaller govt.

Your precious 'high-IQ' whites do NOT want smaller govt. They have ALWAYS been, in fact, the dominant demographic during EACH & EVERY expansion of govt. power--this is true TODAY as well. Your 'high-IQ' whites WANT 'free' govt. schools, 'free' social-security & medicare (which they idiotically think they "paid into"), an insanely-huge/wasteful military to maintain the USA's global empire, and are not seriously concerned about the nat'l debt (which is INCREASING under Trump & the GOP majority).

Stef, you're full of shit...oh, and Zionist-puppet Trump should change his slogan to "Make ISRAEL Great Again" (MIGA)!!!

Adam doesn't like to talk about any data and fact. He was even confused on why Stefan mentioned so much data and fact. What a debater.

I had to go to the adam thing to defend stefan and now im here to say that Adam didn’t seem to be disposed to compromise in short term any as border patrol is a government programm even admiting that no borders would make his job even harder, because recognizing government borders is recognizing government power
Stefan seem to be ready to keep temporarily the borders in order to not impose a bigger violation of the NAP on walfare
But to me it seems that they agree that both should be abolished in the end

I am very interested in your post

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