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RE: My Ideology: I thought I was a liberal national socialist - turns out it is called libertarian socialism
I really enjoyed the read, it's two very apposing ideologies in my opinion. I understand your empathy in wanting everyone to have a fair chance in life, but my root issue with socialism is that it is forced. That's why it's wrong, because its immoral to steal from people even if you vote to steal from people.
what if everybody shares voluntaristic, though? I also think pure anarcho capitalist will have some social contract for trade, responsibility, etc. won't they?
If everyone chooses to share of their own volition it's no longer socialism. Therefore if the community, or people in charge of the community also know as government, no longer controls, owns or regulates the mean of production and distribution you would end up with free market capitalism.
Almost every government in the world is a socialist government to a degree, as long as they are taxing their population.
I think it depends on what you mean by social contract for trade and responsibilities when it comes to anarcho capitalism or just capitalism. Capitalism is in essence forced altruism, you have to provide people with something they need or want otherwise you won't eat.
yeah and that is why I am no an-cap.
there are a ton of people who would disagree with that, me included :P
I think you're missing the fundamental principal here, in a socialist society the community has control and ownership, the ability to voluntarily choose has been forfeited. This is not my opinion on socialism, it's the textbook definition of the ideology.
We can argue that at inception of a social contract like socialism people had a choice, but what about anyone who is born into such a contract or those who choose to no longer be subjected to the contract? Do they have the freedom to be be excluded, no.
We would also then need to explore the legitimacy of such a contract imposed by a democracy which is majority rule. If 60% of a country voted for a socialist state that negates the voluntary will of the 40%.
This is a great topic to discuss and explore, thank you for posting this, I will definitely be following and upvoting.
Well yes, they do. You can always declare yourself to be a one man community. That is why many of your "capitalist" ideas can survive in my socialism.
I do want direct democracy and I dont think it has to always be the 'one way vs the other way' mentality. We should all work together on solutions to our problems and not just make them in our small groups and then let them compete. Sometimes this might be a good way but most often it is not.
I am also am for small governments, it is much easier to get a decision everybody in the small community is happy with. You can also talk about veto mandates for individuals and I want to make the exit of a community as "gentle" as possible, maybe he as a person can just make different contracts with the rest of the community?
Thank you for the friendly feedback and the lively and civil discussion!