Police brutality or Police procedure?
We are becoming more and more desensitized to Police brutality. The "norm" seems to be OBEY or be SHOT!
In this video we see an alternative to shooting but is it any better?
The quick answer is yes since the VICTIM is still alive but please watch and let me know if you think this Officer believes he is a CIVIL SERVANT or a psychopath with a supremacy complex?
Keep in mind the individual was being stopped for not having a bicycle light.
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It's seem to me like they trying to make an example of this guy because once he stopped and they felt he was resisting they could have used pepper spray are stun gun. They allowed the dog to continue to bite and rip on this guy's flesh. They like ten times this guy size shaking my head on this shit.
the dogs used for this sort of thing bite and hold. it isn't like a pet biting with its canines or a pit bull biting and thrashing. the dogs are bred and trained to bite with their molars. the end result is a very hard but firm bite that causes less damage than you would think. this is why dogs are typically trained to target certain muscle groups that can take a bite without severe damage. this is why dogs typically bite upper arms, arm pit/chest area, thighs or calves.
I don't disagree with that and I'm not blaming the dog it is the people in question here, the dog is a trained weapon just like the officers gun, they have complete control and it seems that they kept going when they simply could have ended it and cuffed the guy after all you can hear them say he was intoxicated that means he was not in his right mind normal commands to not resist went in one hear and out the other, it still there duty to protect and not injury this man just because his infraction gave them the opportunity to do so.
I mostly agree, though I'll add that a trained dog is never completely under control. A dog is still a thinking, breathing, decision making animal that seeks to satisfy itself... slave to the instincts just as we humans are. For a variety of reasons, once a dog is deployed it will not be removed until you are cuffed and done resisting. First, a dog that lets go and re-bites is the same as a cop who tazes someone after they are subdued... though the dog is just excercising its desire to bite the bad guy. Second, a dog biting the bad guy is NOT a dog biting an assisting officer. In all the excitement of a violent arrest, its not uncommon at all for a dog to bite another officer running up or even redirecting onto the handler. For that reason, some dogs are not even taught to release and must be forcibly removed from a person.
I agree that if he was purely guilty of a bicycle light infraction the use of the dog was not needed, but I also think the dog got away from the handler prematurely b/c of the late command. That being said, it can be argued if the dude just did as asked the dog wouldn't have come out the car anyway.
But again, getting bitten by a trained dog isn't all that bad
that's normal. When you put a dog on someone the dog stays on the bite until the person fully submits or there are other officers to continue the fight. Because of the liability of outing the dog and it re-gripping off command and that resulting in an "unnecessary force" suit, some depts do not teach the dog an out command or do not command and out and manually remove the dog from the subject. As I didn't hear a bite command ("packen") until the dog was already engaging it's possible the dog got away from the cop prematurely. Training dogs to be under control in that sort of situation and also fully committed to the fight is no walk in the park and most trainers fall short of that. That being said, the officer did repeatedly warnt to stop or the dog would be deployed. We don't know how they got to the point of the police commanding the dude on the bike, so my initial take is that was justified and fair application of force. The guy wasn't severely injured. I've been bitten by many many dogs. It's unpleasant but it's not the end of the world.
also, many cops will tell you there are bad folks out there that aren't scared of being tazed, pepper sprayed, or even shot... but bring a dog in and some of these guys fold immediately... its irrational, but people have a great fear of being bitten by a dog.
It's scary that you think "it was justified force" but you have a right to your own opinion!
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why do you find that scary? keep in mind we don't know the back story here... maybe he stole a pack of cigarrettes... or maybe he was headed somewhere to make good on a threat of violence on someone else... we just don't know. What we do know is he was told repeatedly to stop, warned a dog would be deployed... i've never had a k9 sent to bite me, nor been shot, tazed, or sprayed by the police. when they ask me to comply, I do. if they ask to search my vehicle/property/person i know they don't have the legal right, I inform them as such politely and without conflict, and thats worked great for me so far.
You clearly stated that you are fine with assault of bodily harm as long as it's an officer doing it!
Even when there is clearly no evidence to support it. How is your mentality not scary? He was being stop for no bicycle light!
i don't see where i said that. I'm sorry if you read that. he wasn't bitten for the crime he committed, he was bitten for not complying when told to. you don't fight your battles on the side of the road, you fight them in a court room. its illogical to bitch about the cop's use of force if that use of force is within the confines of the law. if we as a society don't like it, we change the law, not attack the person acting within the law.
and to be fair, that wasn't anything approaching a "mauling". the dog did as trained... it bit, held the grip, and did not shift cause unnecessary damage to the dude.