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RE: If voting made a difference, they'd make it illegal... Wait.

in #politics7 years ago

Land of Spain? I believe the people living there would disagree. If they are such a burden to Spain, why not let them leave? If what you are saying is true, get rid of the cancer. 8-P

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Some of the people in there (and not all) could say whatever they want but Catalonia is part of the land of Spain for thousands of years, that is fact and cannot be changed.

The secessionist has been indoctrinating the people in the region of Catalonia for more than 30 years with a false history. As result, many now believe those lies that were indoctrinated in from childhood and from that comes their wrong opinions and believes now. I've lived there and I've seen their delusion.

The cancer is the secessionist politicians and they will definitely get ridden off into very appropriate accommodation for them, jail cells for conspiracy to secession. That was the fate the last time the secessionist tried to steal part of the land of Spain and now it must be the same.

Why is your name Freedom Vigilante? It seems like you're not for freedom in the slightest. European law or Spanish law is not freedom since government is an institution that can only survival through coercion.

You story is very in depth, but it doesn't matter for the issue of secession. I don't agree with a lot of viewpoints that the Catalans may have, but that doesn't mean they don't have the right to govern themselves. I know that the Catalan government won't tolerate individual freedom either, but at least the level of government will be brought down one more level towards the community and the individual.

That is the most important thing. It's not about who owes what to whom and who does better in the economy. Everyone should have the right to self-determination, regardless of the way in which this is exercised.

You are wrong, you don't know how fascist and xenophobes the secessionist politicians in the region of Catalonia are. I know, I've lived there. They do have a public entity for media censorship, you cannot go about Barcelona if a t-shirt when it is very hot in summer, you cannot do nudism in the Barcelona beaches, you cannot rent your home to whoever you want without paying the politicians, Catalonia right now are probably the most repressive politicians in Europe, and Europe, in general, is very repressive to start with.

The Spanish government is much more open and European, although they still have many things to learn from other countries.

"jail cells for conspiracy to secession"
I agree with @rvanstel, I don't get your name either.
Jailing someone, for wanting to be governed by someone else than the Spanish government seams very anti-freedom.

Please read my previous answers but basically, I'm for personal freedom, very small taxes (below 10%), complete freedom of speech, self-responsibility, no welfare state, right to own your guns, free market without any kind of regulation or interventionism, no central banks and small government whose only function should be to defend the people that elect them from external threats with the army and from internal threads with the police. A secession is an internal threat so police have to intervene and put them to jail and that fits completely with freedom because without a small amount of law it would be just the law of the jungle and that is not freedom.

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