Social Democracy & Liberal Democracy

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The New Democrats

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We are starting to see social democrats grow in popularity. Individuals like Bernie Sanders, Beto O’Rourke, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, and Ilhan Omar have become extremely popular. For the most part, their views and policies align with those of many of America’s Founding Fathers, insofar as they advocate progressive taxation and government taking a role in social welfare. While they admire Nordic Model social democracy, they especially look to Franklin Delano Roosevelt’s New Deal as an example of what social democracy ought to look like in America, which means that they depart from European social democrats on things like corporate income taxes (American social democrats usually support high corporate income taxes, whereas European social democrats tend to oppose corporate income tax altogether).

Some of these individuals—Sanders and Ocasio-Cortez in particular—have described themselves as “socialists.” Ignorant conservatives have used this label as grounds for mocking and deriding them. In reality, these new social democrats are just classical republicans, in the tradition of the American Founding Fathers. Previously, I wrote a couple essays about the political and economic ideas of Thomas Jefferson and Thomas Paine. In those essays, I discussed how Jefferson was a critic of wage slavery and wealth inequality, how both Jefferson and Paine opposed what we call "capitalism" today, and how they both advocated progressive taxation as a means of ensuring a more egalitarian distribution of wealth. I also talked about how the Founding Fathers supported a robust welfare state. Even John Adams, the most conservative of the Founding Fathers, supported an early plan for single-payer socialized medicine. The bottom line is that the precedent for everything that these new social democrats are advocating comes more from the American Founding Fathers than from Karl Marx.

Socialism

To label these new social democrats as “socialists” is a mistake—it is a misnomer. Or, at the very least, it is totally misleading unless you precisely define your terms and make it clear that you are here using the term “socialist” to mean something totally different from Marxism, anarchism, Leninism, Fabianism, et al. The truth is that social democrats entirely reject the essential tenets of Marxism. The Communist Manifesto teaches the following:

(1) historical materialism (or dialectical materialism) a deterministic view of history that asserts that all historical progress is determined by socio-economic forces, that history of society is the history of class struggle, and that understanding the science of sociology/economics allows one to make accurate predictions of the future
(2) that the profit-motive under capitalism will encourage employers to provide their workers with the lowest wages possible and that employers will refuse to spend money on safety measures in order to maximize their profits, and that this process will result in the immiseration of the proletariat (i.e. the total impoverishment of the working class)
(3) that, as a matter of historical necessity, this natural progression of capitalist exploitation will leave the workers so impoverished that they have no choice but to rebel against the capitalist class, throw off their chains, and violently take control of the government and the means of production
(4) that the cycle of recessions/depressions in capitalist economies results from the "anarchy of production," whereby producers produce without knowing for certain what the consumers need, and that this anarchy leads to a disequilibrium of supply and demand; that each new recession is worse than the last and that the capitalist system will eventually fail as a result of its own internal contradictions; following from this, that the only solution to the boom-and-bust cycle is to have government step in and coordinate production through central-planning, and that this alone can save the economy from impending collapse
(5) that all industry must be publicly-owned and centrally-planned; the goal of socialism is government-ownership of all industry and the abolition of private property in the means of production

Now, nearly all of this is rejected by social democrats. Eduard Bernstein, the founder of modern social democracy, rejected all of this Marxist doctrine with the exception of "historical materialism," whereas most modern social democrats reject even that. (Karl Popper, who has influenced many modern social democrats, has actually written several books refuting "historicism.") Bernstein had been a student of Marx and Engels, but he was no uncritical disciple. He argued that Marxist dogma was wrong. He still called himself a "marxist" and a "socialist," because he regarded historical materialism as the essence of Marxism and regarded socialism as the movement to eliminate the exploitation of the working class.

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Social Democracy

Bernstein, the first modern social democrat, put forth a counter-narrative to that supplied by Marx in the Communist Manifesto. This view was, in many respects, the exact opposite of Marx's socialism (hence, why most genuine socialists despise social democrats). Bernstein taught:

(1) that historical materialism was basically correct, that the progress of society is directed by socio-economic forces and that understanding sociology/economics (the science associated with those forces) can allow one to make accurate predictions of future socio-economic developments
(2) that the profit-motive under capitalism does encourage employers to provide low wages and cut corners on safety, but that liberal democracy also tends towards universal suffrage (the right to vote) and that this allows the working class to raise their position through democratic means—the workers end up voting for progressive politicians that implement policies to ensure workplace safety and decent wages; thus, the immiseration of the proletariat will never take place.
(3) that since the dreaded immiseration/impoverishment will never take place, the working class will never become fed up and spontaneously rebel; the working class will be made better through peaceful evolution through democratic processes rather than through violent revolution
(4) that the cycle of recessions/depressions will not necessarily result in economic collapse; that more moderate policies could mitigate the negative effects of anarchic market allocation
(5) that private property and the market system are fundamentally good and ought to be preserved; although the market does sometimes fail, it usually does pretty well; government ought only to intervene in those places where markets fail

To genuine Marxists, socialism is government-ownership of industry in a centrally-planned economy, whereas capitalism is private-ownership of industry within a market system. From the perspective of actual socialists, social democracy is just a modified version of capitalism. Modern social democrats like Anthony Giddens have argued that social democracy is really neither pure capitalism nor socialism. Under social democracy, rights of private property may be restricted (e.g. the government may break up monopolies in order to restore something more like pure competition) and government may intervene in the market to correct market failures (e.g. guaranteeing universal healthcare through single-payer or socialized medicine). This is not unregulated laissez-faire capitalism. At the same time, social democrats are opposed to government-ownership of industry in general. The market usually does pretty well at producing things like houses, food, cars, entertainment, etc. There is no logical reason to socialize such industry. Thus, social democracy is not socialism because most industry is not socialized. The existence of socialized medicine and welfare programs does not make a country any more socialist than the existence of government-run police and military do. Thus, Giddens has referred to social democracy as a third way that embodies the radical centre, steering between the errors of right-wing neoliberalism (aka capitalism) and left-wing socialism. Giddens sees the value in the insights of both the left and the right and advocates a nuanced approach that balances egalitarian tendencies with "philosophic conservatism." (Cf. Anthony Giddens, The Third Way: The Renewal of Social Democracy)

Sanders & Ocasio-Cortez Are Not Really Socialists

Some social democrats, like Sanders and Ocasio-Cortez, call themselves "socialists" for the same reason that Eduard Bernstein called himself a socialist—because they identify with the spirit of socialism, the fight against exploitation and inequality. This liberal and loose use of the term "socialism" was popularized by Anthony Crosland and is still used by many social democrats. While this usage of the term socialism does have historical precedent, going back to at least 1899, I think it is much better and far less confusing to go the route of Giddens and describe social democracy as third-way radical centrism. This third-way radical centrism really resonates with the ideas of the American Founding Fathers, who like the social democrats were neither neoliberals nor socialists.

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Decentralization & Democratizing Democracy

Anthony Giddens, one of the leading proponents of social democracy in the 20th century, argued that classical social democrats tended to expand government and that this was a mistake. Instead, third-way radical centrist social democrats ought to apply the principle of subsidiarity. As you may know from my other writings, "subsidiarity" is the notion that all matters ought to be managed by the smallest unit of organization/government capable of effectively managing it. This is a principle that has guided confederalists and distributists.

"The neoliberals want to shrink the state; the social democrats, historically, have been keen to expand it. The third way argues that what is necessary is to reconstruct it—to go beyond those on the right 'who say government is the enemy,' and those on the left 'who say government is the answer'....
"The crisis of democracy comes from it not being democratic enough....
"The issue isn't more government or less, but recognizing that governance must adjust to the new circumstances....
"The state must respond structurally to globalization. The democratizing of democracy first of all implies decentralization—but not as a one-way process. Globalization creates a strong impetus and logic to the downward devolution of power, but also to upward devolution. Rather than merely weakening the authority of the nation-state, this double movement—a movement of double democratization—is the condition of reasserting that authority, since this movement can make the state more responsive to the influences that otherwise outflank it all round. In the context of the European Union, this means treating subsidiarity as more than a doctrinal term: it is the way to construct a political order which is neither a super-state nor only a free trade area..."(Anthony Giddens, The Third Way: The Renewal of Social Democracy, Chapter 3)

The third-way social democrat envisions a framework for global governance based on free contract or confederation internationally. You could globally construct something like the EU that serves as a free trade area and confederation for global governance without constituting a New World Order style global government. In order to establish legitimacy for government in general, power will have to be decentralized and we will have to engage in new forms of democracy. Traditional representative democracy will not be overturned, but direct contact between citizens and government will have to be re-established through "experiments with democracy," including "local direct democracy, electronic referenda, citizens' juries, and other possibilities."(ibid.)

I believe that Giddens' emphasis on decentralization is, perhaps, part of the reason that MMTer have proposed a federally-funded job guarantee program with decentralized administration. This emphasis on decentralization is important and it is yet to be seen whether the new social democrats in Washington are going to pay tribute to this doctrine of subsidiarity or not. It is worth noting that both Sanders and Ocasio-Cortez have ties to (or have been influenced by) MMTers, so it is likely that they have been influenced by this way of thinking. Nevertheless, the failure of the new social democrats in Washington to expressly address the issue of centralization/concentration of power is disconcerting, though not as disconcerting as the attempts by everyone else in politics to deliberately centralize power for nefarious purposes.

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Liberal Democracy & The Open Society

Social democrats, like Giddens, are advocates of "dialogic democracy" or what Karl Popper called the open society. Advocates of "social democracy" and advocates of "the open society" will find a lot of room for agreement. They are both proponents of liberal democracy. While Popper does not identify as a social democrat, he is within the liberal democratic tradition to which social democracy belongs.

Popper contrasts tribal societies ("closed societies"), which do not openly trade and interact very much, with "the open society" of liberal democracy. The emergence of liberal democracy had begun in ancient Athens and was responsible for the dissolution of closed tribal societies. Athenian imperialism and commerce went hand-in-hand with democracy. (Cf. Karl Popper, The Open Society & Its Enemies, Chapter 10, Section 2) Government and imperialism were essential to creating money and establishing commerce, so Athenian imperialism was linked to Athenian commerce. But, seafaring and commerce created an open society in which various tribes and peoples interacted. Such interaction tended to undermine superstitions and the tribal institutions that were based on them. It became harder for shamans and chiefs to control people and impose their authority as society became more open. Consequently, the more open society became, the harder it was for oligarchs to maintain their privileged position or for governments to appear legitimate to their subjects. Larger markets and greater commerce require more democratic systems in order to establish legitimacy of government and keep the people from revolting.

Within the open society, it becomes necessary for governments to establish legitimacy through democratic means in order to maintain order. In order to govern in an open society, persuasion becomes far more important than brute force. Ideally, a liberal democracy will be a dialogic or deliberative democracy in which decisions are made rationally, based on meaningful discussion. Liberal democracy strives for rational government rather than arbitrary government or government by force. As globalization broadens, markets expand to their maximum extent, and the open society reaches its full potential, it becomes necessary to implement more deliberative and participatory forms of democracy in order to maintain order.

Piecemeal Social Engineering

Karl Popper recognized that "rational social engineering" was necessary insofar as some form of government is necessary for an open society to exist, but he distinguished between utopian engineering and piecemeal engineering. "Utopian social engineering" is what socialists and anarchists propose, when they seek to totally destroy the established order and start over from scratch—the utopian wants to engineer a new society from scratch. "Piecemeal social engineering," on the other hand, is more in line with Giddens' philosophic conservatism—it seeks to make smaller changes and gradual reforms rather than overarching utopian revolutions. The piecemeal social engineer can convince people to support his proposed reforms and get them imposed democratically, with popular support. This renders violent revolution unnecessary and maintains social stability and security while making improvements to the social order. It is much easier to get a majority of people to support a single policy or reform proposal than it is to get a bunch of people to support an overarching vision for rebuilding society from scratch. It is much harder to get a majority of people to agree on what an ideal society would look like than it is to get a majority to agree that a particular tax reform proposal is desirable. Liberal democrats and social democrats agree that this approach of gradual, practical reform is preferable to utopian revolution and the restructuring of society based on theoretical models.

Conclusion

Popper, like Giddens, presents a vision of liberal democracy that strikes a balance between the left and the right, between progressivism and conservatism. On the one hand, he recognizes that injustices exist within the current system and that change is necessary. On the other, he recognizes that stability and security are desirable and ought not to be sacrificed for the sake of revolutionary change. The traditions of social democracy and liberal democracy occupy a place in the middle, between left and right, like Karl Marx coming to terms with Edmund Burke and both rejecting the left/right dichotomy in favor of a radical centrism that is both conservative and progressive.

These new "socialist" politicians in America represent this same tradition of liberal democracy and social democracy. They are not actually socialists at all. Sanders, O'Rourke, and Ocasio-Cortez comprise the radical center. The fact that they are viewed as the "far left" in America just demonstrates how much Americans have been brainwashed by rightwing extremism.

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Whosoever was involved in writing that communist manifesto seems to me like the biggest idiots ever, in existence.

(2)&(3): In a free and deregulated market, workers who feel like they’re being underpaid will always, either find a higher paying job (because there’s much more competition which cannot be eliminated, unless companies bow down to the demands (which are achievable) of each and every consumer, which may even be impossible, in case of conflicting demands), or create new competition with ease.
What they’re considering is a practically impossible edge case, if libertarianism is in effect.
Secondly, eagalitarian society holds no importance at all, because, if there’s a class of sufficient size, that has a low income, there will always be a market for serving them. To put it in other words, in a free market, you simply cannot hire workers without paying them enough for survival, because there’s so much competition out there.
(4)&(5): Totally false. They always exist. The swings are more violent in an interventionist government. The more you intervene, the harder recession hits you, because intervention competes with fundamentals to drive investment. The government is the worst at knowing what people need, because of its centralised nature.

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(2) & (3) De-regulated labour markets are not in perfect competition. There are always more people selling labour than those who are buying labour. That results in a market where wages are lower than their optimal level with additional economic rents extracted by the employer with lower overall productivity and with the cost borne by the worker and everyone else (due to losses in productivity). This is pretty basic stuff that you'll learn in second year economics.

(4)&(5) The empirical evidence doesn't support your claim.

Totally false.

  1. Even if there are more people selling labour than buying it, the price of all labour will be lower resulting in lower prices for all goods, which means even with a lower wage, you’ll be able to buy enough to survive. Take India for example. Even if you earn less than a dollar a day, you can feed yourself 3 times a day. Is that possible in USA?
  2. The ratio of people selling the labour and people buying it can be pretty small even in a deregulated market. That’s when more people try to set up their own businesses (i.e. more competition). In fact taking off regulations make it much easier and less costly to set up a business. This is common sense. You won’t learn it anywhere.
  3. Talk about empirical data when you actually know how to analyse it. You can always give a word salad explanation and dumb people would still believe it.

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It may be possible to survive in India because food is cheaper, but surviving isn't thriving. I remember having a conversation with a member of the Indian Orthodox Church years ago, discussing educational resources on patristic tradition and Orthodox dogma, and they said they couldn't afford to purchase such literature because the cost of those resources was so large relative to the wages they receive there. So, that's another factor to consider.

I can give you countless examples of people going from rags to riches without any of those resources. Two of the most prominent examples are:

  1. Dhirubhai Ambani of Reliance who used to work at a petrol pump before founding the company. He was one of the richest in India before dying. His son is currently the richest man in Asia.
  2. The founder of MDH spices: https://www.viralindiandiary.com/mahashay-dharampal-gulati-mdh-story/

These aren’t exceptions. There have been many such success stories, where a person went from rags to riches all by himself. There are others who have achieved this feat after generations as well. These incidents essentially prove that it’s not formal education or availability of money that’s keeping you from becoming rich. It’s more of a combination of talent and attitude. Moreover, we also see that providing formal education to children doesn’t give them any significant advantage. Most of what they do, like basic arithmetic, using mobile phones, reading, writing etc. are self learnt. They don’t learn anything special at schools that can provide them significant advantage. If at all, only the best quality education, like the ones you can acquire at elite institutions (that too if you’re intellectual enough), is beneficial. So, it’s better to try your luck at other jobs that don’t require as much skill. Your descendants can always afford quality education once you have enough money and a better perspective. I haven’t heard of a single story where a random person without merit, from an extremely low income family, was sent to Ivy League college and became rich all of a sudden. That simply doesn’t happen. But, you would certainly lose a talented person in the process, which is simply not worth it.
Considering all factors, merely surviving is enough, if you have the talent and right attitude.
Whenever the government forces the increase in minimum wages, the wages of all basic labour increases, which can result in two situations. The first would be that prices of all goods would increase (since the labour cost for all of them is more) and either the effect of wage increase would be nullified or local businesses would lose to imported products which would lead to unemployment (which is worse than poverty). The second would be that the businesses would have to shrink their workforce, which would also result in unemployment. Therefore it’s best to not regulate the market. At least those people would be able to survive and the talented ones would still be able to escape poverty.

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The main factor in going from rags to riches is not talent or effort but luck. That's why it's relatively rare.

And, I agree that minimum wage is a bad way to regulate markets. A much better approach is a high marginal income tax rate on top earners, which encourages employers and CEOs to raise wages rather than lining their own pockets as productivity increases and profits increase. All of the Nordic social democratic countries have no minimum wage, but have high wages without the negative consequences that come with minimum wage, because they utilize tax policy to ensure that wealth is more fairly distributed.

Nope. It’s not luck. It’s talent. Talent is rare amongst poor, and for the sake of finding those out, you spend too much on social welfare, which is a misallocation. Those talented people come up on their own, without any help.
As far as tax is concerned, I favour extremely low tax rates (less than 5% for everyone), because government mostly uses those to pay off interest rates on debt and take more of it. It then either misallocates it or drives private sector out, creating unemployment. Liechtenstein has 1.2% income tax and is one of the richest countries. If you want unequal tax rates, you should be charging the rich at a lower rate. This incentivises people to move up the ranks (either get promoted or start your own business), hence encouraging them to work more (add more value to the society) and create more jobs. Higher marginal taxes deincentivise setting up businesses, which is why nobody wants to set up a business in nordic countries. Their stock markets are the worst performers and their government depends on capitalist countries for their earnings (their government holds shares of USA and emerging market based companies). If USA does that, most of the businesses will move away, creating mass unemployment and famines.

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The most talented musicians I know of are poor and have never "been discovered" because they don't have enough money to promote themselves. You, sir, are completely out of touch with reality. I'm going to stop responding to your comments now because I don't have time to waste on refuting such mind-numbingly incoherent nonsense.

The only talent you consider is the talent needed to be an entrepreneur, or to be an effective employee under dire circumstances. Even then, environmental circumstances are a factor, which is a form of luck. Simply by denying that someone who's born in some far off village with little connection to the outside world is quite less likely to rise to riches with their own company, regardless of the talents they may possess, you show how far removed from reality you are.

Also, the way you completely drive over people who do have other talents, but who lack the attributes that would allow them to transform these talents into economic success on their own, also shows cruelty, and a willingness to waste those talents because they're not compatible with your beautiful, perfect equation for human society.

Not all basic labour costs necessarily increase. It really depends on how dire the situation in the country is, which industries are affected how much, how great of an increase it is, and what other parameters the bill might bring with it.

Developed nations are probably those that have the hardest time competing with other countries wage-wise, so let's look at them: Most of their wages are already fairly high, even relatively speaking, which means that usually only a small portion is targeted by minimum wage proposals. Also, there is a great array of imported products, as well as products that are manufactured locally with some imported components.

The industries that are often underpaid are of the service kind, such as restaurant and hotel personnel, cashiers, cleaners or janitors, which produce something that can't really be imported all that well. There are also cases in other industries, of course, whereas agriculture might be one of the more difficult ones in that regard. Manufacturing, however, covers a wide array of jobs and wages, which means that a minimum wage increase would only affect a portion of it, depending on how dire the situation has grown in that sector for the country in question.

Understanding that labour costs are only a portion of the product, and that only a portion of most products's labour cost is tied to labour paid in wages below the (proposed) minimum wage in the country of sale, and the fact that more money in the pockets of labourers affected by the increase means more purchasing power in the populace, the effects are quite less simplistically negative than you're letting on.

At the end of the day, consider this: Earning $4000 a month is considered low in Switzerland, and anything below is viewed as outright abysmal. Sure, costs are also much higher, but at the end of the day, people have good purchasing power on average, and wages in the 5k-7k range aren't uncommon at all, and they're by far not the end of the rope.

If high wages and losing out to imports were such terrible problems, Switzerland would be an economic wasteland by now. Yet, you'll have a very hard time finding anyone who'd claim that the country is doing anything less than "fine" in the economic grand scheme of things.

You might want to have a look at this article, it has quite a bit to say about the minimum wage.
Here's an article having a bit of a look at a breakdown of hamburger costs in a minimum wage context. I suggest having a look for illustrative purposes.

Switzerland does have a trash economy:


Get a reality check already.
When the waiters accept a job for a lesser pay, the price of food does go down, unless all of them agree to fix prices at the same time. If they do so, the clever ones reinvest it, creating more jobs.

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Oh! And I forgot mentioning that you do depend on the tech developed by capitalist nations. What has your in house contribution been so far? All of the advancements are coming from capitalist nations.

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I like most of this, but I definitely do not feel that Beto is a Social Democrat - or even that close to one really. He has a more moderate history.

Yeah, Beto is more of a neoliberal, but neoliberal and social democratic ideology do have notable common features.

That's a rather abstract take on the issue. In reality, politics is a dirty business, and whilst it is good to be aware of the theoretical background to it all, in practice, politicians who're posing as social democrats but then go and meander around key issues, as opposed to being strong, unwavering and unmistaken advocates of comprehensive measures, usually do that for a reason, and not the good sort.

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