Good post.
The biggest problem with the left are their (purposely) strange word definitions. Freedom for example is not seen as to be free of something, but freedom of scarcity. That's a whole different thing and - as usually - ends up in a society that looks like a prison.
If you want to crack the left with arguments, you have to crack their wording first and make sure you and everyone else knows what they mean with what they say.
Except no, that's not true at all.
The left very much wants freedom on a social level, and that should be obvious to anyone that hasn't been brainwashed by the alt-right. That's why the left fights for gay marriage, legalized marijuana and is pro-choice in terms of abortion.
The only freedom I can see the "right" caring about is "freedom from taxes" which is really just a fancy way of saying they don't want to contribute to society. Oh, they also care about freedom of speech, but only when it's people advocating fascism and genocide.
The "alt-right" had nothing to do with that, it was more the "classic communists" of Eastern Germany who will openly admit that for them freedom means freedom from scarcity. Todays progressives are just useful idiots, not worth being discussed and let me give you the prove for that before you start whining around:
Todays progressive left supports gay rights AND the right to Islamic legal procedures in the West. That's a contradiction, especially since they apparently abandon gays in favor of Muslims (lol), at least that's the case in Germany, where the gay community starts shifting to those "alt right Nazis" of the AfD, where one of the party leaders is a lesbian.
The classic left by the way got this one right: They were and still are against Islam (just ask Enver Hoxher).
No, sorry, no one supports Islamic legal procedures in the West.
Instead, we fear Christian legal procedures.
But keep listening to those alt-right news sources! They're so accurate!
no one? Not even one leftwing politician somewhere in the West..
Question: Who is this?
Aww how cute, you're reduced to using semantics against me.
Sure, a single prominent Muslim who made a couple pro-Sharia law comments is totally the same as "the left" advocating Sharia law.
In exactly the same way you're a Nazi because Richard Spencer gives speeches about how we need to cleanse non-whites from the United States.
Her name is Chebly and she was working in Germany's foreign ministery under a social democrat minister who is now Germany's president. Currently Chebly works for the city of Berlin on I believe Integration matters. Get it? In Berlin the left made a Sharia supremacist boss of the integration department .
And then there is Frau Özguz. Ever heard of her? Also Social Democrat who is Merkels Integration boss. According to her there is no such thing as a German culture and she thinks it's Germans fault when migrants rape their women. She also has twin brothers who are known Islamists and who run the Islamist website Muslim-Markt.
Do you need more?
No, I don't need more propaganda or attempts to blow things out of proportion.
Literally the only thing holding the Right together is a manufactured hatred of liberals. So of course you have a couple cherry picked examples, but one idiot saying Sharia law is compatible with Germany's existing laws is not "Liberals supporting Sharia law."
Do you want to do a comparison of Conservatives espousing white supremacy for comparison? Because we both know that list would be much longer.
Or do you define "freedom" as "the freedom to get rid of an entire race of people?"
In fact, looking into it more it sounds like she received a lot of criticism from within her party for her remarks. It's almost like the left doesn't like the idea of Sharia law.
which is why she got sacked.. oh no, wait. She got promoted to a position with less public exposure.
here's another one: Federica Mogherini from the Italian PD (sic!) who is currently running the foreign affairs bueraucrazy in Brussels and who once actually said:
"I am not afraid to say that political Islam should be part of the picture." and just in case you like "context", here's the rest of the paragraph (I added the bold stuff):
"Religion plays a role in politics – not always for good, not always for bad. Religion can be part of the process. What makes the difference is whether the process is democratic or not."
I'll leave the interpretation to you. Just so much: When 51% of the population are in favor of Sharia for everyone, then there will be Sharia for everyone.
So what you're saying is you're against the freedom for people to choose what laws they live under?
I am not sure what you are tryin to say, they do want a post-scarcity world since they think that Capitalism is caused by scarcity. Of course this never happens as literally in any leftist country you can see you always have scarcity and shortages. Only Capitalism creates abundance.
But it takes a lot of balls to blame your own ideology's faults on your enemy ideology, that is the culmination of propaganda.
By the way sophistry is the art of the left, they never explain things to you directly, they always use euphemisms , redefine words and appeal to emotion rather than reason.
When they say we will have a socialist worker's utopia, what they mean is that we will all be equal slaves in a concentration camp.
Exactly what shortages do you have in your leftist country again?
When anarcho-capitalists say we will have a capitalist utopia, what they mean is we will all be slaves in some CEO's work camp.
Venezuela, Cuba, and the list goes on. All leftist countries have massively destroyed their own economy.
I said yourcountry. I know you're in one of the Scandinavian ones, and all of those are more left than the US so please tell me what shortages you are facing in your leftist country.
And the ones you named are under sanctions and trade embargoes right? But I guess you think that has no effect?