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RE: The American Illegal Immigration Solution

in #politics6 years ago (edited)

Our current immigration system basically allows in the people who have degrees and jobs, and don't need to immigrate.

It doesn't allow people who are working class to immigrate. So anyone who is working class, and wants to work to have a better life, if not for them, then for their kids, must immigrate illegally. I call them undocumented workers, not only because it's "PC" but because they come here to work.

They can't get any welfare, and most do pay taxes, including payroll taxes. Their kids can get some social services, and education, but that's because they're entitled to it. We're assuming that they'll find a way to get legal, and will stay in the country. That's how it's been for decades.

The parents don't get any kind of social benefits if they don't get a green card. They don't get a green card unless there's some law to give them green cards. That's why a lot of children of undocumented workers give money to their parents.

As far as fining people for hiring undocumented workers - yeah, there were laws in the 1980s, and I think they still exist, but it just doesn't happen much. It's a $10,000 fine.

The reason why it doesn't happen is that someone needs to report it, and most people don't care. I don't care. (I want to get people legal and am one of those "open border" types, meaning, more permissive than Democrats.)

The people hiring want to make money. The people being hired want to make money. If someone is working in the office, and some undocumented worker is out there sweating and bringing in the money, will that office worker tell? Their job depends on that guy out there doing the work. They aren't going to report each other.

Then, look at who is doing the hiring. It's usually a local small business, not the McDonalds. Who's going to do the pickups at Home Depot? It's a small mom and pop yard maintenance company. It's a small handyperson one-man operation who needs help on a bigger job. If the person doing the hiring is white, what are the odds that he's a Republican? Think about it. If you're not in one of the 80% Democrat areas, it's pretty high.

He may even have connections.

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I appreciate you're stance. The thing I'm not sure about is how an undocumented worker is paying taxes? How do you pay payroll taxes when you dont exist according the government who's collecting them?

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