The double edge to the 2nd amendment..

in #politics7 years ago (edited)

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So I should make this clear right off the bat; I’m not an American I am Canadian. If an American wants me to stfu I will gladly so because it’s only an opinion.

I’m chiming into gun laws and nobody has to worry because I’m more moderate than some, also a little more consevatic on other things..

My parents are from the States but are no longer American. I am no longer American, and it’s not because of guns laws, but more in regards to taxation.

Leaving it at that I have a family history that has suffered from persecution. I would understand why someone would want a weapon to defend them self. I have also a lot of historical knowledge and know that if you had freedoms no other country in the world has had before it deserves defending.

The founding father’s of the United States faced tyranny. What tyranny is, is best left up too debate, but I would think it usually involves those with guns threatening your freedom. You only wished you had guns in that situation, this why the 2nd amendment was put into place (foreign & DOMESTIC). So with that being said it looks as though tyranny can sprout up domestically.

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This leads us to a double edged sword. Yes I would love to have an automatic weapon to fend off hoards of blood thirsty (insert your hated group).

But then at the same time laws have made it easier for blood thirsty hoards to get them..

I’m sure the blood is boiling in some patriots so just cool it for a second and keep reading..

I’ll just say this, the second amendment is important, but I will temper my opinion that I don’t believe automatic weapons should be distributed. - Yes maybe with a license and strict control.

Perhaps I am naive but weapons of war should not be in the hands of millions of people who can become disgruntled because they lost a job. In fact many of us in the crypto world know that the economy could sink at any moment. So what happens to angry disgruntled, (insert religion or political affilition), what happens when people on mass lose the freebies by government?

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Mix in unemployment with religious ferber and boy is there going to be a boiling kettle. Perhaps this is the natural state pure democracy will create. Eventually haters will arise.

Kinda looks like civil war could happen.

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So with that being said yes, I would want to have an automatic weapon to defend myself from masses of those kinds of people. Sounds like the problem is tethered to the solution. Maybe the Genie is out of the bag already and both equate each other out?

All I am saying is that “western freedom” has let us forget what made those freedoms possible. The 2nd amendment wants to have freedom preserved. There is plenty of gun violence in Toronto and other cities (Chicago) which have strong gun laws but plenty of shootings.

Evil people get guns and good people don’t deserve only the police. As the saying goes, the police are only minutes away when seconds count.

I as a human being have the right to protect my life so long as it doesn’t infringe on someone else’s freedom. That means with a gun if it had too.

Do I need an automatic weapon? Well probably not unless I was in the middle of a civil war. Maybe if the street were also filled with hoards of people with the sam weapons. But let’s face it, society would have fallen by then. Unless I had to mow down 10 or more people there shouldnt be a need for it. If there are those kinds of mobs I would have to believe the army/national guard would have to help defend against a domestic threat. Yes also the army could become a domestic threat.. but I do believe in American soldiers patriotism in defending freedom. So in essence you would see a split in the military anyways (civil war).

So in conclusion I believe A) Guns are a right to own and B) Automatic weapons aren’t necessarily the kind of gun I would own.

I would certainly be wary of adults who act like children owning guns either. And we all know there are MANY grown up “children” out there.

In any case, I see gun control coming back into debate after Las Vegas. There will be many crazies who spoil the bunch and keep the debate going. My thoughts and prayers are with the families. The world is just having more and more problems..

If you are up to a respectable debate post your thoughts..

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the world is def becoming scary bearbear

other than being flooded by minnowpond lol I would have to agree

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I just posted mine in my comments though I hadnt read this yet. I can respect your view point and yes the guns and bad situations are tied together. but taking guns away will more than likely lead to a worse situation for everyone

well to be honest I think it’s too late to take certain guns away.. never all.

But if I could I would get rid of automatic weapons. But like I said the genie is out of the bottle - too late

I am a Danish citizen, living in the USA.

My experience in Denmark was that people rarely had guns, and rarely killed each other with guns.

That had little to do with guns and a lot to do with the idea that ANYBODY having the "right" to act as judge, jury and summary executioner in the taking of another human's life is socially and morally reprehensible to such a degree it simply doesn't happen.

If they outlaw guns in the US, criminals will get them anyway, and people will die.

If they encourage everyone to have guns, people will die anyway. But it will be more like the famous "Kitchen Scene" from the movie "Enemy of the State."

The "good guy with a gun" theory is psychologically bogus because a criminal has FAR less to lose than a responsible law abiding citizen with a house and a family. Criminal 1, Citizen 0.

Are you referring to fully auto? or semi auto? Cause fully auto guns are illegal here in the US since the Firearm Owners' Protection Act of 1986. As for semi auto weapons, I like to shoot targets for fun and get rid of little critters here and there. Both of my brothers are police officers so we all know a lot about gun safety and we all go shooting at the gun range. I'm not sure how easy it is to get a fully auto weapon here but with all the events going on it doesn't look too hard. I do see some of your points though!

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