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RE: Politics of bitcoin

in #politics8 years ago

Even at 10mb they could be full without increasing fees to prevent abuse. Check this out: https://bitcoinfees.21.co/

In the last 24 hours,
325 txs were 0-fee.
42500 txs were damn-near-zero at 1-9 satoshi/byte

Naturally "blocks are full"... because tens of thousands of txs are included that cost less than 0.01 USD.

It's only natural that if abuse costs near zero, then abuse potential tends to infinity.

Monero found it out the hard way.

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It does seem that a lot of tx are being sent using lowest priority with very low fees, which i guess for non-urgent things might be ok. What confuses me is that tx with .0001 txfee (about 40 sats per byte) are often delayed, why are lower fee tx taking priority?

So it seems 20% of space can be freed up with better selection of the tx, but things are clearly too close to full. the chart shows the vast majority of tx are not getting a free ride and with just another 30% of organic growth of these paying tx, there wouldnt be room

How long until things grow 30%?

What confuses me is that tx with .0001 txfee (about 40 sats per byte) are often delayed, why are lower fee tx taking priority?

My guess is old node software heuristics (?) that prioritize differently.

As for the 30%, I think early-to-mid 2017 probably. But by then it'll be 1.65mb effective due to segwit. Even if half the mining nodes use it, the bump will keep it ok. Hopefully segwit doesn't have some major clusterf*** in it. I have a bad feeling about it.

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segwit is so complicated, it is essentially an entirely new blockchain in parallel. what could possibly go wrong? old nodes that dont update become SPV level security, but there wont be any hacks against it, right?

using segwit to get a capacity increase is not anything that makes sense. if you need more space, change the blocksize limit. I know it has to be a hardfork and you cant force the upgrade on people.

maybe that is a good thing? people actually choosing

now segwit has some very useful things, but it is also quite the dangerous thing where script opcode's meaning can change. and who controls all that? where is the consensus on it?

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