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RE: HOW JOBS DESTROYED WORK (PART TWO) by EXTROPIA DaSILVA THE TRUE DEFINITION OF ‘WORK’

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I'm curious to see what will happen when machines meet AI and take over the bulk of human tasks. How will the economic model adjust? Right now it is based on the worker-consumer. If the consumer is not a worker, how is he going to get paid? If he hasn't any money then how is he going to consume? So how is the economy going to operate?

There are various scenario for the above, including a minimum guaranteed income for all (even without work), but that particular one I feel will come with many control-strings attached to it. But that's one step further than what the article discusses. But I don't have a doubt that work hours will crumble - initially through mass unemployment which will intensify.

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@alxegr Basic income isn't the correct answer. The correct answer is to change what income is. For that we need to solve the distribution problem using something more efficient than money because that's all money is, the grease in the distribution machine for goods and services.

The first step is to recognize that the declaration of Independence is correct.
Everyone has the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

If people could do what they love rather than grinding all day for a paycheck, you would see a serious uptick in the quality of the arts and humanities. But for that to happen, we have to provide housing, food, medical, and utilities such as internet. Along with a concept that if society produced it in bulk, it belongs to society and has no unitary value. Your desire for a thing becomes the only currency needed.

Thus instead of a "basic income", we as a society need to guarantee a "high quality standard of living for everyone". We do this because you are human and you are alive, and we're all curious to see what you're going to do with the gifts and talents you have. Because when you create new things whether it's a poem or a work of art or a new computer program, or a dance. You are giving to society. Right now society doesn't view everyone's contributions as equally worthy.

Thus it requires changing your mindset, and the mindsets of everyone you know from one of "I'll get mine, you get yours", to "This is pretty cool thanks for sharing, here have some of mine!".

Only answer I can give you on this. It's a utopian ideal, and it requires efficient decentralized control.
Sounds like socialism and communism which have both been shown to have limits, but those failures are not really what I'm talking about here. You have to change people and society as a whole. Until you do that we lose any utopia we might be hoping for and yes it does devolve just like you said until the survivors sort the mess out.

tldr; Stop greed, ask "What can I do for my neighbor?" instead of "What can I get out of my neighbor?"
If money is outlawed, only outlaws will have money. ;)

I'm not a basic income advocate - I believe it has a good chance to be implemented in order to use it as a (dystopian) control tool for the masses. If you don't "comply" with any "directive" from above, they will threaten you with loss of income and ...extinction.

They trick is to get rid of "them". They should never be in power. You should never give anyone power over your life. My point was change the way the human mind works.