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RE: Poker Tip Man Armen-"Under The Gun" with Pocket Rockets
So which is it? Is it bad advice or taken from a book? Books give bad advice so it must be taken from a book? Or books give good advice so it must be taken from a book?
It sounds like you are just shotgunning with accusations. I'm downvoting you and upvoting the post to discourage your behavior. I'll keep an eye on you now.
@sigmajin is right. This blog post is completely absurd. It reads as if it is written by a guy who played poker for a week, as do his other posts. Want me to make a proper poker strategy post this week to show you the difference between what a real professional poker player writes and someone who is definitely not a winning poker player does?
(reposted this from a different reply because the other is max nested and allowed for no discussion)
I didn't flag this post because I'm not certain it's copy pasted or anything like that and don't think it deserves a flag (I basically only flag for plagiarism or wrongful attacks), but I don't think it deserves upvotes. You are free to do with your upvotes as you please, but this is terrible poker advice and poorly written, so I would advise against promoting things like this.
Hi Ryan! Today I started reading your blog, I definitely started following you I am nothing more than a big poker enthusiast and I do agree what @armen is saying is pretty basic stuff and he is leaving out lots of factors, I hope you actually do a series of poker strategies posts you would have my vote for sure (though I do not have lots of power yet). Looking forward to it.
Ryan... i was on chat half way to asking you to come to this thread and decided fuck it i dont want to get anyone else involved.
Regardless the poker gods and I appriciate you coming in and sounding off (and I personally would love to see poker strat on here...)
Here are specific things I will point out about this post:
There is no mention of many important pieces of information: how many players at the table, how many BB most players have, cash game or tournament, what your range of hands is in this spot, what people will play against your UTG range, and what you do with other hands. These are things that you have to know before stating something like "minraise aces UTG".
If someone reraises you that is a 3bet. If you then reraise back that is a 4bet (he called it a 3bet). Not knowing this is a very strong indication he is not a professional poker player, and was not something he could have just messed up.
How do you do that when you minraise? You are asking for multiple people to call a small raise. The bb will almost always come along vs a minraise, and a few players at a 9 handed table will too. Minraising utg is asking for the pot to go 3-4 way.
Basically this post contained a very cursory overview of an extremely specific situation in poker and missed out on tons of important things to note, and actually gives wrong advice for a number of situations: generally you want to 3x UTG with your entire range in cash games, and aces is included in that.
I would like proof this person is a professional poker player, and I'm sure if I show this article to 10 professionals right now all 10 would say it's not worthy of even being in a Hold'em for Dummies book.
For the record, as someone who played professionally for many years and still writes strategy for a number of sites, I wholeheartedly support everything @daut44 & @sigmajin are saying. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news @steemed, but if you're partial to poker content I'd be happy to begin posting more of it here as well.
seriously?! wow. so many poker players on here! welcome :)
When I said min-raise UTG with aces it applies to poker in general weather its a cash game or a tournament. Not to a short game or the final 2 tables in a tournament. I understand there are many other factors, but the post refers to general terms when holding aces UTG. As far as a 3 bet, you are correct I ment to write 4 bet. (Thanks for pointing out, i will make the correction) I still firmly believe going 2x is the way to go...try it before you knock it as I've tried 3x and found that 2x is better with aces UTG. For some reason, with a 2x raise people almost always test you with a 3 bet; which is something you want. If you read the last part of the post, you can see that the point is to play agressive or big in late position not UTG, unless you can go head's up . You dont need to ask 10 pros you can just ask Chris Ferguson on how to play aces UTG. Thanks for your time and constructive criticism.
I don't mean to disparage your poker skill, and do hope you continue posting here, as this platform is in dire need of more poker content, but I don't think you should post technical advice blogs and don't think they should receive huge rewards as I think it's weak strategy. I've played millions of hands of poker, have been a professional player for 10 years, done coaching on both in game play and game theory approaches, and also made videos for training sites and I think spreading correct and sound information to new players is important.
But I would love to hear some poker stories from players of all levels, and you definitely have experience playing poker, so write up some fun stories and people will enjoy them. Followed you :)
I do not think this particular post was taken from a book, I downvoted it because of its terrible, ridiculously bad poker advice. I challenge you to find a single successful poker player who would tell you otherwise.
The previous two articles (the one about tells and the one about the rule of 2 and 4) were most likely taken from super system and Phil Gordon's book. I don't have either of those books handy, so I'm not sure if it was word for word or paraphrased. But regardless of the extent to which they were copied, i felt both posts were overvalued and I voted my conscience.
If you want to follow me and downvote me that's certainly your right. I can only speak and vote my conscience. I feel i expressed my reasons for the downvote as clearly and respectfully as possible. I could have simply downvoted and said nothing, but i didn't feel that was fair to the poster.
Except in obvious situations (like spam or identity theft) I rarely use my downvote this way. But in this situation, as an expert in the field, I felt like this was a clear downvote to me. Im sorry you don't agree.
Two more points -- then ill stfu
1 -- I realize that there is some controversy about some authors you recruited, and whether you ought to be voting for them or some such nonsense. This isnt that. In fact, if you look back through steemit chat, i was the guy in there arguing that it was silly to try to tell you who you could and couldnt vote for.
This is a professinal poker player downvoting bad poker content. And it is really really bad. If you don't believe me, go ask daut44, mihudee or any other poker player on the platform (disclaimer, i havent asked them what they think about these posts... im just assuming based on them knowing the game and what good poker content looks like)
2-- I appriciate you not killing my rep with your downvote. I realize you could have.
I didn't recruit this poster, but my understanding is that they are professional full time poker players. I also consulted another person who I know is a professional player and they said that the advice wasn't unreasonable. There is a lot of flag abuse that I feel is coming from jealous or from unnamed competitor projects and I'm starting to get tired of it. You might have been expressing an honest opinion at the wrong place and time. I recommend, on advice like this, if you think it's bad, post why it is bad and some examples maybe from professional tournaments where this advice was proven unsound.
The informaton provided in this post or any other post came from my thoughts and experiences. I didnt paraphrase other poker authors. As far as bad poker advice...im open for discussion. Please point out the bad advice and i'll be more than happy to elaborate. Poker players have different styles of play so strategies may differ.
See the two quotes above. I stand by my statement. ANd I am morally certain that if i was willing to spring for a copy of supersystem too, i would find the same thing about the neck tell... because the only time i have ever heard anyone talk about the throbbing neck tell thingy is "ridiculous things i read in supersystem" and similar conversations.
This guy is giving terrible advice probably taken from books written by bad poker players...