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Not sure I completely agree with that . I believe that the I only becomes a problem when it forgets their responsibility it has to the We. If there is a God /Gods i'm pretty certain that the images and understanding I had when I was still 100% certain are correct I Believe that the quest for self and the refinement of self serve a divine purpose. Creation every piece of it is born out of the question- who am I? through our choices through our individual facets the divine learns who he/ she /it / they is . So denying the I as so many would like us to do is in my view a crime against the force that wanted our existence in the first place . There is a need for balance however while we should not deny our needs and who we are we also need to understand that we share this universe with that exists.

I am typing that from my phone I can't see anything so if I have spelling mistakes please forgive

In the words of Hamza Yusuf:

“The weak are dominated by their ego, the wise dominate their ego, and the intelligent are in a constant struggle against their ego.”

I do agree with this: the quest for self and the refinement of self serve a divine purpose. Truth in paradox, how we need to find and refine self to overcome it--the way we use words to lose words. Thank you, for sharing, Tyger, and sweet dreams.

What you call ego is just a very small part of the I. People waste so much time feeding it excessively it or trying to reign it in. The thing is it is a tool a sense of the true I. Most humans rely on it as their other parts are often disabled or dormant the trick is to work on elevating the other senses to create balance. Most mystical traditions do this by trying to destroy the ego, which can work short term but which once again leave a soul in imbalance. If you have a limp you don't cut off the leg :P as is it's all work in progress :) - Sleep well :)

We agree to disagree, once again. Mystical traditions subdue the ego, because it is a barrier to our development & emptying ourselves to fill up with the Divine. There’s nothing ‘short term’ about visionaries, unless you’re viewing them from the outside, through the limited lens of ego ;) As you see, I feel no need to act as bribed defend of the problematic self. But, we’ve had this exchange before, Tyger, and are going around in circles :p

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