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I always thought you were a heretic; go forth and sin no more 8-P.

My first meditation retreat I named myself

The Rule Breaker.

I didn't break my retreat rules, but I went home and broke a lot of social norms that are stupid and unfair, busted a lot of abusive assholes in the chops, completely freaking my family out...

When everyone is expecting you to act per their view and how they think you should perform and you step out of the box it shatters everyone's view of reality and the way they handle this is by calling you crazy. I gladly accepted the title since they were calling me mad before my new insight into who I truly am...hahaha.

If you can't break the social norms and try new things out to see how they will work you might as well be in jail.

The guidelines of the Church of Piglet aren't forced upon you, and don't even apply to you, if you're not supporting the Church of Piglet.

That is also how the CoP is different from many other churches, despite what it says in 1 Corinthians 5:12. We are also far less serious.

BTW There actually are a few social norms the breaking of which perhaps should send you to jail. It's not entirely open-ended, this breaking-free thing.

That's where wisdom comes into play, figuring out how much you can get away with before pissing everyone off and getting kicked out of the church and social norms are not state laws.

But I do support you, and I promise not to eat your cute little pig...

Laws are made by a governing body that will use physical violence to enforce them. Norms are unwritten and trickier to navigate because breaking them may get you killed or ostracised depending on the social structure you live in...religions if not involved with the state have those unwritten laws. I promise to respect your norms when in your Church of the Piglet. Please don't become a governing body that uses force to enforce your religious views.

Norms are unwritten and trickier to navigate because breaking them may get you killed or ostracised

Or rightly be called a prick. It's not just the consequences of not complying to norms that matter, some norms have a moral background that one may or may not like, but which is hard to ignore because it is useful in a group, or just because it consists of, well, morals.

If only the personal consequences of what one does keep ones behaviour in check, one would be an amoral person, no? I'm with Kant on this.

And I haz no force here on Steemit.

PS I misspelled "reddest" twice in one of my last postings before I corrected it; I blame you.

I have the down vote flag of the righteous😇

Morals of A society or group are good if they arent used to control others so one can do what one wants and it causes harm to society or an individual. I follow the rule of do no harm as best I can with my limited intellect and lack of wisdom.

Kant made the mistake when he assumed people were reasonable in a world of universal laws...hahaha😈

Aristotle and Buddha are wiser...virtue is a balancing act between extremes.

Oh, but there are many reasonable people, but that isn't what Kant was talking about, I think.

And Kant didn't say there were universal laws for "good", he even denied that: "It is completely impossible to think up something in the world [...] that can be considered "good" without restrictions ...".

One of the things he said was "Act as if the maxims of your action were to become through your will a universal law of nature." That's just speaking hypothetically. The categorical imperative is a feature of the autonomous moral consciousness and not of heteronomous moral systems, it has nothing to do with universal morals and duties, or universal laws, coming from without, it's just a way of thinking about morals that come from within. Not all that far removed from that "wisdom" you mentioned, no? He calls it "good will".

But let's not go there anymore; I have long since rolled my own morals.

We could argue this one forever it’s a hot topic in philosophical debates, good call ❤️

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