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Thank you! There is a saying: "Wedge wedge kicking.". ;-)
You can try to go not so deep with someone, for first time. And next time — deeper ...
I think that with phobias it is necessary to fight, as far as possible.

It is true I think the slow intentional facing of fear. The other thing I have against me is weight, lol. I doubt I would fit in the tight caverns.

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