You have no Freewill! You think you do but you don't.

in #philosophy8 years ago

 This post is inspired by a talk given by Sam Harris at the "Festival of Dangerous Ideas" in Sydney.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FanhvXO9Pk Sam Harris claims that we have no freewill and when you look into the science, it becomes exceedingly clear that he is indeed correct. 

Probably the most touchy subject in the world!

But before we get into the delusion of freewill I would like to acknowledge that for a lot of people this is a very touchy subject and even if you are convinced that you have no freewill, as a matter of conscious experience you will always feel like you have freewill. So on what basis do I say that we have no freewill. Let us first do a thought experiment in the confines of our minds right now. First thing do you realize that there is a voice in your head passing commentary about everything. Even now as you read this mail the voice in your head is saying stuff constantly. Do you realize that these thoughts simply emerge into consciousness. You cannot stop them nor can you predict what the next thought is going to be. You cannot choose them before you think them because that would require that you think them before you think them. If you can't control your next thought and you don’t know what it is going to be until it appears, where is your freedom of will. Now coming back to the thought experiment.


Thought Experiment

Think of a film and notice what your conscious selection process is like. Notice first that this is as free a decision that you are ever going to make. You have all the movies in the world to pick from and there is no form of coercion or external influence. Now go ahead and pick another film and do notice how you end up picking the movie that you pick. Now I hope you chose a movie if not stop reading and choose one. Now that you are done. You know perfectly well that The Wizard of Oz is a movie but for some reason it wasn’t one of the contenders for the movie you picked. Now think of this, were you free to choose that which did not occur to you to choose. You probably thought of several films and you went back and forth between the options to finally settle on one and it is exactly this kind of mental dialogue that leads you to believe that you have freewill. But if you look closely it is a mystery why you choose one over the other. You might have a story to tell yourself about why you chose one over the other. But we know that those sorts of explanations are almost always wrong. You can take a person to the lab and prime him/her to give a certain response and when asked why they chose what they chose they almost always have a story to tell which has nothing to do with the priming. If you read Thinking fast and slow by Daniel Kahneman you would have come across a plethora of such examples. 

The thing to notice about this experiment is that you the conscious witness of your inner life isn't making these decisions, all you can do is witness these decisions. It has been demonstrated many times over in many labs that a person's conscious decision comes after process that can be detected and there is time lag between when the brain decides to do something and when you think you have decided to do something. Even the simplest and most voluntary decisions such as the decision to move your left hand vs your right can be observed in your brain before you actually do it. The experience of deciding comes after the decision has already been made by the brain. Do check out the second half of this video to see what I am talking about. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmmYQJCReaQ    

The fact that we don’t have freewill has profound implications for how we see ourselves and the world around us. In my next post I will write about the implications of not having a Freewill. 

If you do come across any interesting stuff about the topic, please do share the link, I would love to expand my own understanding about the topic and also if you find any loopholes in the argument do point it out. I believe it is only with logical disagreement that we can expand our understanding of concepts.

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I find it very hard to choose to believe I don't have a free will. Ok, there are all sorts of heuristics going on in my head, based on all the information and experiences I have accumulated during my life, and which happen in the unconscious, but I am sure those heuristics are also based on all the free-willed pondering I have done throughout my life. Just the fact that most decisions appear to be done before they reach my consciousness doesn't prove there is no free will. It proves that there is some advanced and fast heuristics which reduces my need to spend energy on decisions which the heuristics have decided to be non-important. If some decision is important, I can take all the time I find appropriate for making the decision. I am sure I can freely choose how much time I use on it.

I can also choose how I am constantly "primed". I can choose who I spend time with, what books to read, what to watch and what to listen to. Of course those choices are based on some previous knowledge, most of which I have no conscious memory. If it wasn't so, we would be stuck at the beginning, making no progress in anything. So I strongly believe that the automatic system in our heads only supports free will, and frees us from making the same simple decisions a million times.

What I believe we can't choose, is how we are primed before birth. Malsow's hierarchy of needs is programmed into us.

Even if I am wrong and there is no free will, life is sure interesting and fascinating.

Really sorry for the very late reply. The free willed pondering that you mentioned is also based on heuristics going on in your head, based on all the information and experiences you have accumulated till that point in time. The best way to think about it is by trying to understand the very first free-willed pondering that you think you have had. They would have been around the age of 3. By then you would have already accumulated information and experiences which were not in your control. Everything that influences you after that point in time is external stimulus and your perception of the external stimulus (which is based on heuristics). The books you choose to prime yourself with are also based on the way your heuristics work. But as you aptly put it at the end. Life sure is interesting and fascinating even if there is no free will and from your point of view you will always feel like you have a choice. The whole idea of the understanding of the delusion of free will is to empathize more with others and not judge them for their actions as you would do exactly what they are doing had you been in their place.

I find that Sam Harris is always saying things that are interesting and sometimes controversial.  But he seems to support his assertions at his blog and in his books.  People debate his ideas and that helps to clarify the supporting and opposing points.  I think I have his his Free Will book around here.  I know I have "The Moral Landscape" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Moral_Landscape which was a good read!

Thanks for this thoughtful post!

Sorry for the late reply. I found his book "Waking Up" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waking_Up:_A_Guide_to_Spirituality_Without_Religion very useful. Thanks for sharing the moral landscape, i will surely check it out.

Before disclaiming the existence of free will you should define what you mean by "free will".

Thought experiments usually suck, because they're based on assumptions that wouldn't hold water, or seemingly imply conclusions that don't make sense when scrutinized. To counter yours, it is perfectly possible to lie at home in bed with your eyes closed and decide which movie to watch. Then, in the store, your arm will simply execute the prepared plan and fetch the video you consciously selected before.

Obviously, there is some mechanism by which we make decisions. It is also quite obvious in human behaviour that our decisions are usually not the product of rational thinking. But IMO rational thinking is not a requirement for a free will. It is perfectly sufficient to have a decision making process that is not entirely dependent on external influences, and call that a free will.

I wouldn't be so quick to discredit thought experiments. I am sure there have been some useful though experiments in human history. Also the understanding of free will is not entirely based on thought experiments. There have been many experiments carried out in labs around the world. Coming to your point about deciding which movie to pick, do you have any idea how you picked the movie that you choose. There were probably 3 or 4 movies that came to your mind and then you might have a mental debate between the ones you thought of and then picked one. On what basis did those 3 or 4 movies come to your mind and how free are you to choose that which did not arise in your consciousness.

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