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RE: Is Everything Blindly About Balance?

in #philosophy6 years ago

Ooh controversy! :)
Balance, to me, is accurately defined as 'no part or aspect is overpowering any other part or aspect'.
Judgements are thoughtforms that rigidly define that 'x is y' - or 'dogs are scary'. The problem with judgements is that the are outside of time and are essentially guesses which often take on the appearance of fact. There's nothing wrong with simply accepting that we don't know and then remaining open to learning more.

The vague denials you are pointing to are very common in society on Earth, yes - not just among 'spiritual people' but among 'scientists' and many types of people - it's just that the form the denial has taken often has us denying it's presence.

Enlightenment is 'understanding', so inherently it comes with truth - the two go 'hand in hand'. But clearly too we can hold misunderstanding and judge that it is actually correct understanding.

Having deliberately aimed to not judge at all, I have found this approach to not only be helpful but actually to be necessary when problem solving, including when writing computer code. Why do I need to waste my energy in guessing? I don't usually.

This is the delusion of balance being able to answer everything as some convenient solution to not bother having to really think deeper and understand if something is right or not. Just say it's all about balance, you gotta balance everything, etc.

Ironically, the delusional version of balance you are pointing to is actually based on judgements, such as the judgement that "deep thinking isn't necessary if we just have balance".

Denial is at the core of all dysfunction and we probably all have some of that going on - the key is to intend to identify our denials and heal/balance/evolve to clear them and align more completely with actual truth.

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Judgment is synonymous with evaluation, diagnosis, discernment. You judge every single day of your life. Everyone does. This is another thing that gets misrepresented ;)

Actually, it is possible to carefully pick through and understand all thoughtforms being held, removing/clearing/releasing all judgements. I have consciously and knowingly released 1000s over the last 15 years since I started. Releasing judgements frees up energy and creates space for change. The example of scary dogs is a clear one. The judgement is that 'Dogs are scary' when in fact the truth is that 'i once felt fear when a dog jumped at me' - you can see how the two thought structures could be judged to mean the same thing, but in fact they do not. the judgement 'dogs are scary' takes an experience and packages it into a blanket statement which applies to every other dog and possible interaction with dogs - which is a misrepresentation of the truth since many interactions with dogs do not involve fear. If i hold the idea that 'dogs are scary' then I may create false feelings of fear when around dogs that makes me edgy and nervous in their presence. By releasing the judgement through identifying the denial that the judgement introduces, I can then experience reality as it is, rather than as I project it to be erroneously.

Judging that 'everyone judges every day' is a sure way to miss the details here - neither of us has met all of the billions of people or knows what they think and do every day. ;)

You're mistaken Bias with Judgement. Bias is "dogs are scary" because of your history with dogs. Judgment would be that dog is scary, if that dog indeed is scary. Your predisposed viewpoints on things are biased and that's not judgement, judgement is synonymous with Discernment, I discern that you were referring to Bias from the context and the meaning applied, I judged in other words that you didn't use the correct/accurate term to refer to what was "happening" or what "was", and equally judging if something is good and bad isn't about it being TRUE. Judgement at most times is a Value judgement, or opinion, and some opinions might be valid "that dog is scary" and some might be only Biases "all dogs are scary, or dogs are scary".

It's kind sad because clearly the point krnel made was that judgment is contrived to mean what you think it means, the meme of "don't judge me".

From a good book on this subject:

Judgments do not open space for improvement because they substitute criticism and the rigidity of labels for good advice and discernment.

Judgment is not the same thing as discernment. Discernment can
draw on past experience, but it also notices the differences.

Past experiences are a source of wisdom, but judgments give false wisdom
because they do not see the situation for what it really is. Judgments also
say that the next experience will be the same as the last experience. This
is the same as saying that nothing has been learned, and also that there is
nothing to learn that could change things for the better.
Judgments are rigid thought forms attached to the thinker. If you judge your experiences rather than understanding and accepting them, you lock the energy into rigid patterns of perception that take your focus away from what could help you grow. Each time the judgment is made again, and the emotions around it remain unmoved, or intensify, the thought form intensifies. For example, 'Tm not a nice person," is a judgment and a label in place of compassion and introspection that could realize why you could have this judgment against yourself.

Intense judgments are usually made amidst a wave of strong emotion when a person's usual sense of things is overwhelmed, and there is a feeling of needing to push back, "make sense of the situation," or define it. While judgments do label and structure the situation, and therefore, can give a person a sense of making sense of things, they are also limiting. In this way, feelings of not having enough understanding, or personal power, are compensated for by imposing misunderstandings and judgments that bring an illusion of understanding, power and control.

Judgments are not necessary steps on the way to understanding. Judgments obscure the ability to use discernment. Discernment in observation and evaluation, learning and experiencing can all take place without judgment. Judgments simplify and rigidify. Judgments are outside of time. They exist after the experience in which they were made, and when the judgments remain, they have the power to influence future experiences to conform to the judgments. This limits your possibilities.

Judgments Bias and Prejudice do not open space for improvement because they substitute criticism and the rigidity of labels for good advice and discernment.

Learned you something today.

Judgments do not open space for improvement because they substitute criticism and the rigidity of labels for good advice and discernment.

Actually criticism and labels are discernment many times. Here are some definitions of judgement and you can tell me which ones apply to the above quote:

https://www.thefreedictionary.com/judgement

There are 7 senses to the word there, which ones would it be?

Judgment is not the same thing as discernment. Discernment can draw on past experience, but it also notices the differences.

Judgement is discernment. Saying that it isn't doesn't make it true. Sometimes I want to hit people over the head with a dictonary.

Putting something in a dictionary does not make it the most accurate understanding regarding the concept being defined.

Putting something in a dictionary is an accomplishment in it of itself. An established concept that has a LONG long long long history and understanding isn't "putting something in a dictionary". Bias, bro, that was the word you were looking, for, bias, prejudice.

Language is living and evolves along with understandings. If some people hold different understandings regarding concepts it is not right for them to be held back from updating definitions due to the rigid 'voice of authority' among those publishing books. Books can open the mind, but they are not much help if we are tied to them in a rigid way.

As you can see from the etymology of the word prejudice - prejudice is ultimately a word that means 'prior judgment'.

Bias refers to a similar form of judgement based thought that is closed and that denies aspects of reality as a result.

By noticing that prejudice IS judgement and that bias is essentially similar - we can see something more of the nature of judgements.

I guess there was so little room for Bias and Prejudice that Judgement had to be hijacked to describe the same fucking thing.

#PsIadmit

Do you have a problem with bias and prejudice and what their definition is?

I am concerned with the mechanical construction of thoughtforms and hold the intention of being as accurate as I can be. I therefore release judgments when I find them and so that includes aiming to be unbiased and unprejudiced.

Here's an example: If we look at a piece of wood and wonder how many centimeters it is in length, we could judge it to be 5 or we could measure it and find out it is 6. Given that judgments always deny an aspect of reality, I intend to not participate in their use or creation.

If I was invited to a 'beauty contest' and was asked to judge 'who is the most beautiful' - I would, through describing the causes of their beauty and why I personally prefer those forms of beauty, be maybe able to state a preference, but I would not need to judge that 'she is more beautiful than the others' - beauty is subjective and much more deep than can be assessed in a beauty contest, so I would not belittle beauty itself by guessing at who has the most.

Vagueness is my enemy, observe:

Past experiences are a source of wisdom, but judgments give false wisdom because they do not see the situation for what it really is.

Why? and How? Asserting vacuous nonsense is my judgement, and it doesn't draw from "past experiences" but simple logic of if a is b and b is c than a is c.

Judgments also say that the next experience will be the same as the last experience. This is the same as saying that nothing has been learned, and also that there is nothing to learn that could change things for the better.

Why does judgement say that? and how?

Judgments are rigid thought forms attached to the thinker. If you judge your experiences rather than understanding and accepting them, you lock the energy into rigid patterns of perception that take your focus away from what could help you grow.

Actually, it depends on how you judge or discern your past experiences, it's not by default that you are a harsh critic of your past, and being a harsh critic doesn't exclude accepting and understanding.

Each time the judgment is made again, and the emotions around it remain unmoved, or intensify, the thought form intensifies. For example, 'Tm not a nice person," is a judgment and a label in place of compassion and introspection that could realize why you could have this judgment against yourself

Except that we saw above that judgement is clearly weaponized and used to mean that discerning people as NOT NICE are actually a discernment about oneself and not used the correct sense of judgement in any of its definitions, judgement has a bad connotation because it's tied to Law and the rigidity of those Reason and Definition centered institutions, which the feeble minded are recoiling from, REASON! you want me to JUDGE for myself!?

It all makes sense now, the reason the world is so fucked up is that it's all a reflection of myself, I better stop projecting.

Judges Release Judgements also, I meme.

Indeed, so it's not really the concept of balance which is at fault. Balance in one sense is universal fact, that is equilibrium. All systems "balance" towards it.

Equilibrium is my favourite movies, one of them, and it sounds like the next catchphrase that the newagenewagers are going to finagle into their speeches.

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