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RE: ||Over-Population||A Dangerous Myth or Benevolent Mass Suicide? Why Population Growth Is Wonderful News! A Short Thought Exercise.
"Whosoever shall seek to save his life shall lose it; and whosoever loses his life shall preserve it." (Luke 17:33) Your post reminds me of the first city Socrates built in Plato's "Republic." Evey man/family shall have enough land to meet his needs . . . then Glaucon objects with 'I need my meat!'
As long as human society seeks to preserve its current socio-economic paradigm, we will fail to build our just society and settle for a world built on lies, division, and conquest. Once belief, or faith, is challenged and changed, reality will follow.
If Glaucon did in fact need meat he could utilize a silvopasture approach on part of his land which would be sufficient to supply his whole family with meat and an abundance of other food, while creating more diversity and healing the earth.
Imagine if our animal husbandry practices healed the earth and provided beauty opposed to pollution!
I assume you don't think as he, but figured I would say this anyway!
These proposals are designed to meet needs, not 'culturally-manipulated for the sake of gross profits and power of a few dictated'- 'wants'. Often these wants don't even meet our needs, leaving us wanting more left in a state of addiction and sin (our previous talk of sin being archery reference to missing the target).
Absolutely!!! Why else are we on steemit?!
Haha. Glaucon was complaining that he did not want to live in a society, in which he felt that the luxuries/comforts of civilization was not present. You are correct that we need to redefine the concept of luxuries away from idleness of the physical and mental state to reflecting upon true needs and desires of man in harmony with his environment.
Plato clearly recognized that without the fundamental change in social construct regarding the "benefits" of civilization, all we can do is create an unjust city, founded on a massive lie, that separates her citizens from the outside and within the social matrix.
Clear words my friend. As it stands I do not wield the words sufficient at transferring my vision of a future to others. So, fortunately/unfortunately I will just continue on the path of creating it, whereby demonstrating the luxuries present in a new model. Too many people advocate for sacrifice and reduction and loss when concerning our present problems. People never want to 'give things up. As long as a new model only talks about what people have to give up to save our species 'create a healthier world, it will never happen.
I have Plato's republic, in a beautiful leather bound cover, I never got around to reading it. I think I may do that here soon.
So that's where Hitler stole that from.
Lol! Plato's "Republic" has been the blueprint for every spectacular "social reformers" from Mao to Khomeni, so I would not be surprised if Adolf himself were an avid Platonist.
Huh, I don't know much about Hitlers actual philosophies. I do know that whoever wins a war, paints the loser as a diabolical villain, the likes of which have never been seen.
Regardless, this philosophy on it's own is amazing, and in a vacuum that philosophy vs the victors philosophy of some men owning all the land and many men owning none at all. Well, I'd have to say I'd be a Nazi! (Please use that sentence out of context for future discussions :) )