RE: The Last Revolution (Part 23) – The development of man’s creative being
I'm not sure if you're asking a question or making a statement. If you're saying this is a contradiction within Christian teaching, then it's not true. From the very begining, as you said, labor has been a necassary part of creation. Adam and Eve were were given the task of caring for the garden. They were commanded to be fruitful and multiply. Contrary to some beliefs, children were always difficult to care for. It is not a sin for a baby to behave like a baby. The curse part comes in after the fall, when work went from something done with pleasure in perfect cooperation with nature and the divine, to constant exhausting drudgery necassary for mans very survival.
I didn't read all that literature you posted, but if it suggests that the popes, counsils, and bishops as well as all the protestant pastors of the past 2000 years somehow just glossed over glaring contradictions in their basic beliefs, you might want to read actual Christian writing instead of believing what others say about it. Start here. Much of this was written hundreds of years before the new testament was even a thing. http://www.newadvent.org/fathers/
Ok, I just skimmed over some of the liturature you posted there and it seems to be communist propaganda. Communism looks great on paper. Hell, Star Trek is a perfect example of a perfect communist society. Unfortunately, It doesn't take into consideration mans fallen nature. In any system there will be those elite few who figure out how to game the system to their own benefit. Once those people are in power in a communist state, they will assign you with as little as possible while taking for themselves as much as possible. And if you say one word in protest, you find yourself in gulag or just plain disappeared. I'm perfectly fine with western culture, where at the very least I can complain about what's wrong without fear. but now I'm unclear what any of that literature up there has to do with Christian philosophy. Did I just type this all for nothing? At least it helped me flesh out some of my own thoughts! :)
Please be advised I'm posting a whole book of Philosophy PhD Ljubodrag Simonovic. You cannot seriously talk on philosophy by “skimming literature” and considering SSSR model of a “communist state”. It has never been that. Thanks for reading this text.
Right. I didn't feel like reading all that at the moment. If you are going to insult me, at least explain how what I did write was flawed. Also, You probably should think twice about requiring folks on forums to read an essay before replying to your posts. tldr is a thing. I know because I'm guilty of it all the time.
edit. I have read Tortured for Christ by Richard Wormbrand and the Gulag Archepelago from Solzhenitsyn. I have spoken to and worked with people who grew up in communist Russia. I've never heard a possitive thing about communism from anyone who has actually experienced it. Maybe you can enlighten me.
I did not insult you in any way. This post, and the rest of the book, will be read by those who are interested in objective vision of the World. I don't require anything. And you certainly have no obligation to reply with or without reading it.
Look, I didn't realize it was an entire book until I scrolled down. I thought the first few lines where a question or statement pointing out a presumed flaw in the Christian understanding of labor. I'm not used to so much depth on internet forums. Let's start over. I just began reading the book. I already have a couple issues with the first paragraph. I hope you are open to argument and not trying to win a fight. Personally, I'm very cynical, so I enjoy being proven wrong.
Straight up and to the point. Within the first two paragraphs, I can say with certainty that this author has a skewed and personally biased idea about the nature of God. Secondly he argues that "By becoming a totalitarian destructive order and by depriving man of the possibility of realizing his creative potentials in everyday life and in a humane way, capitalism produced the most atrocious crimes." Now, since it is a matter of historicle fact that Stalin and Pol Pot are responsible for more atrotious crimes than all the western leaders and/or religious factions combined, he must mean the most atrotious crimes would be the the deprivation of creativity. If so, I would have to ask where he comes to this conclusion? Western culture and captitalism specifically has produce more invention and technological breakthroughs in the past hundred years than all of human history. It is the promise of profiting from one's labor that adds extra incentive to put your all into it.
If I'm missing something then please explain. Because in two paragraphs he has written many questionable statements in absolute terms. My questions for you personally are 1 who is this author, and where did study to come to these conclusions. And 2 why should I trust what he has to say when he consistently writes subjective ideas in absolute terms? So far this is not philosophy, it's propaganda.
You obviously choose a blue pill. Good luck to you.
I asked you to please explain if I am missing something. Can you explain why I should believe this author over others? You say I'm taking the blue pill. Why? Please explain if your intention is to promote truth. Maybe I'm just not informed enough to understand.