What does Justice mean?

in #philosophy3 years ago



Everyone demands justice, but no one can really say what justice means.
Justice should describe the ideal state of social togetherness, but what is the ideal state? Does justice mean equality? And in which sense equal?

Would it be just if every human being received the same, and all goods were distributed equally among people?

Or is equality of opportunity just justice? So that every human being has the chance to achieve the highest possible standard of living with his potential and diligence? Is it fair that some people with a lot of talent can achieve a high standard of living and others with little potential never have the chance to achieve this despite diligence? Would it be fair to balance the innate different potentials of people?

The social position and standard of living are highly dependent on innate qualities. A child who has successful parents is lucky, because through better financial possibilities and contacts, the child has much better chances to become successful in his life. As a child of the lower classes, this is virtually impossible.

In today's society, those who are successful get recognition, but not those who achieve a lot. If, for example, bankers cheat thousands of people on the table, i.e. legally, they are socially seen as shameful beings of society. But bankers enjoy a high reputation because of their income.

Would it be fair if there was an ideal society in which everyone could be objectively evaluated in their performance and paid accordingly? And if this were the absolutely justice state, would the people at the bottom of society be able to bear this state psychologically at all? If they would objectively stand there as social losers?

The concept of justice is so abstract that it ends in definition in a subjective view. A sense of justice is a moral feeling and follows one's own position in society. To form a society into a consensus on the sense of justice in which every human being feels treated fairly cannot exist. Only the factors of a better starting position through innate talents lead to extreme imbalances. Some people have the chance to fulfil their dream of life, which may also be the dream of many other people. Others do not have this chance because of the lack of potential.

Trying to balance this out may be fair from the point of view of some people, but from the point of view of others it will cause great injustice. Every radical form of justice leads to even more injustice. To what extent is the compensation of the natural equality of human beings just?

What does justice mean to you?


Very interesting post where you try to put different points of view about what Justice is or what Justice could be for different groups of people.

In my opinion, Justice itself is or should be that legal system that punishes crimes committed without any distinction between people.

When we talk about Equal Opportunities, as long as no criminal act is committed here, no kind of Justice is required. People are or should be free to carry out their life plan as long as they are not hurting someone else.

There will be rich people who will be able to give more to their children, there will be poor people who will not be able to do so much for them. There will be very talented people, there will be people without much talent. If I wanted to be a professional tennis player, I would have to compete with other players and if I faced Nadal, there would be no such thing as "Cut Rafa's arm to be a fair game," we could do it and the match would be more equal, would be "Justice", but it would be immoral. While if the party takes place under normal conditions, Nadal would have crushed me and would have won the best, that is also "Justice", but it would be moral. There should be no problem with this.

Ironically, if Justice were to divide the "resources" equally among all people, there would be no justice, because this would automatically lead to equality of results and therefore the people who strive harder, smarter or more talented would get the same as those who do not strive, are not so intelligent or are not so talented... And that wouldn't be fair either. Nor would it be fair to rob rich people for the simple sin of being rich.

There would be no Freedom, and this I believe is the key to being able to consider this "kind of justice" to be the least harmful to a society and the most moral. Therefore, in a certain way we could consider that Justice in these cases does not really exist no matter what choice you make. It is a question of morality where what really exists is the option of allowing there to be Freedom or not. To choose Equality of Opportunity or Equality of Results.

Very good post friend, Greetings and Peace!

thank you for your time @daniscib.
my best wishes back

Hello @Oendertuerk, yes that is a difficult subject to deal with, since to reach the balance it will depend on many personal, cultural, socioeconomic and other factors and even then, it would be defined according to the capacity of interpretation of both sides...

you are right @sekhet :)
so justice is not something objective but subjective and you first have to decide what is justice (fair, right) and what is not (?).

For me, Justice doesn't exist.

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Justice is just a word. But money talks, money decides, money do judgement and almost everything can be manipulated by money. Justice therefore is not exist!

Justice to me is taking matters in your own hands, To an extent. If someone stole from u and u have proof, take it back and more. If someone pulls a gun on a defenseless being. If you can get a gun or a knife take off that persons trigger finger. If you are raped get someone if you can to rape the one who raped you but times 2 or more. Let them know that the crimes they do are not games. It is serious. Bad things that happen to anybody affects them mentally. It can be a small effect or big. Jail for most people is more like a good reputation. Your more like in a military environment. Away from family, surrounded by mostly your gender, and so on.

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self-justice... that's a very difficult subject, too. I think there are things that you can do with self-justice and there are things that people do under the name of self-justice which is not self-justice but just false/broken pride...

Very good post

Justice is not blind, we just do not have the capacity to understand how it works ...
Greetings @oendertuerk...

there is something to it @jexus77, because since the ancient times this topic is discussed and it is still not clearly defined.

Greetings @oendertuerk, justice, is not good, is not bad, it is simply a double-edged sword and everything will depend on who draws it and especially against who is used...

Very serious topic. Immediately I remembered the quotation of Cicero: "Justice is to give to each his own."

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