Who took them over in your opinion? To be clear, I am talking about 100% control in the modern day i.e who controls them today. I suspect that you are referring to the Jesuits taking control 500 years earlier, or maybe the Khazars? I'm referring to the group that controls them today.
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Freemasonry (which nowadays is heavily influenced by a jewish/Zionist component). you can even see all recent Popes doing masonic handshakes and signs. including Pope Francis
there was always jewish and masonic plans to take over the Vatican (some are even documented) and obviously by 1980 the plan was fully completed.
Jesuits were crypto-jews (sephardic and ashkenazi), there was a bit of competition between the masonic and jesuitic structures of control in the past centuries, but now they work hand in hand . In Rome even their HQs are next door to each other.
so my view is that the Jesuits control the Vatican on behalf of Zionist Freemasonry.
Pope Francis is a puppet of the Rothschilds, they even retweet his crap on twitter all the time even though they are openly jews and freemasons.
Jesuits. I think in the 1800s the Karzars probably took the reigns, due to their rise to control world resources. This was about the time they took over the USA as well. So to summarize, you are not wrong likely, just missing a takeover or 2 earlier in history.
The plan is known as the 500 year plan, and began with the change to a helio-centric universe and the burning of heretics around 500 years ago. This is when the current conspiracy began.
You are talking of the commonly acknowledged take-over of the Vatican 500 years ago by the Jesuits - I agree that it did happen.
I am talking of the far more recent takeover of the Jesuits and Vatican that occurred in 1823. If a company buys another company we don't go back in history and call it by the name that it used to be known as. We generally acknowledge the new owners which is what I have done.
The Khazars converted to Judaism in 740 AD, or not longer after (the exact date is a topic of debate). The conspiracy began in the 1st century, and I would argue thousands of years before that. How far back do you want to go?
Sabbatean-Frankists took 100% control of the Vatican (and the Jesuits that controlled them) in 1823 - which was my original point. The Sabbateans are Khazars (crypto-jews).
Maybe we are talking about the same thing while using different terminology?
I go back to the biggest change in historical course, and that's far enough. That was when a fundamental change of course can easily be identified, and the most relevant historical starting point to this point in history, IMO. To focus on the Karzarians only denies the truth roots in the Jesuit takeover of the Catholic church, IMO. That's my logic for that point.
If you want to go all the way back, it's the same story as babylon.
Thanks for the clarification. I understand where you are coming from. Jesuits are a huge part of it no doubt. Many things changed at time - as they did in the early, mid and late 1800's.
Today, the Jesuits are puppets, albeit crucial ones. Some argue that the Jesuits were always Khazars. It's difficult to know but I do know that the Sabbateans control them today.
If you can point me to some good resources, or write a post I'd appreciate it and I'm not trying to be funny. I always eager to learn in my quest for truth. Cheers
Yes. It took me like, an hour to find it, somehow I deleted the bookmark. I have an excellent resource, that utilizes science and facts to deduce the mysteries, and I thought it was great. Please enjoy.
Who took them over in your opinion? To be clear, I am talking about 100% control in the modern day i.e who controls them today. I suspect that you are referring to the Jesuits taking control 500 years earlier, or maybe the Khazars? I'm referring to the group that controls them today.
@steemtruth @lost.identity
Freemasonry (which nowadays is heavily influenced by a jewish/Zionist component). you can even see all recent Popes doing masonic handshakes and signs. including Pope Francis
there was always jewish and masonic plans to take over the Vatican (some are even documented) and obviously by 1980 the plan was fully completed.
Jesuits were crypto-jews (sephardic and ashkenazi), there was a bit of competition between the masonic and jesuitic structures of control in the past centuries, but now they work hand in hand . In Rome even their HQs are next door to each other.
so my view is that the Jesuits control the Vatican on behalf of Zionist Freemasonry.
Pope Francis is a puppet of the Rothschilds, they even retweet his crap on twitter all the time even though they are openly jews and freemasons.
Jesuits. I think in the 1800s the Karzars probably took the reigns, due to their rise to control world resources. This was about the time they took over the USA as well. So to summarize, you are not wrong likely, just missing a takeover or 2 earlier in history.
The plan is known as the 500 year plan, and began with the change to a helio-centric universe and the burning of heretics around 500 years ago. This is when the current conspiracy began.
You are talking of the commonly acknowledged take-over of the Vatican 500 years ago by the Jesuits - I agree that it did happen.
I am talking of the far more recent takeover of the Jesuits and Vatican that occurred in 1823. If a company buys another company we don't go back in history and call it by the name that it used to be known as. We generally acknowledge the new owners which is what I have done.
The Khazars converted to Judaism in 740 AD, or not longer after (the exact date is a topic of debate). The conspiracy began in the 1st century, and I would argue thousands of years before that. How far back do you want to go?
Sabbatean-Frankists took 100% control of the Vatican (and the Jesuits that controlled them) in 1823 - which was my original point. The Sabbateans are Khazars (crypto-jews).
Maybe we are talking about the same thing while using different terminology?
I go back to the biggest change in historical course, and that's far enough. That was when a fundamental change of course can easily be identified, and the most relevant historical starting point to this point in history, IMO. To focus on the Karzarians only denies the truth roots in the Jesuit takeover of the Catholic church, IMO. That's my logic for that point.
If you want to go all the way back, it's the same story as babylon.
Thanks for the clarification. I understand where you are coming from. Jesuits are a huge part of it no doubt. Many things changed at time - as they did in the early, mid and late 1800's.
Today, the Jesuits are puppets, albeit crucial ones. Some argue that the Jesuits were always Khazars. It's difficult to know but I do know that the Sabbateans control them today.
If you can point me to some good resources, or write a post I'd appreciate it and I'm not trying to be funny. I always eager to learn in my quest for truth. Cheers
Yes. It took me like, an hour to find it, somehow I deleted the bookmark. I have an excellent resource, that utilizes science and facts to deduce the mysteries, and I thought it was great. Please enjoy.
https://thenarrowgateweb.com/
Thank you for digging it up. I will take a look at it.