Then Pantheism is true. And then materialism is true. And then there is no free will. And then Objectivism is true.
But this is exactly the same as subjectivism. So having free will and not having free will is exactly the same thing, it's just a question of perspective.
I know it sounds hard to comprehend, but eventually all roads lead to this conclusion. It's just how you get there defines what point of view you choose.
For example you can say that only objects exist, and then everything is just there. But that only means that it's the same object. The same way atoms come together and form a tree, and then trees come together an form a forest. Which one is there, the tree or the forest? Both. It's just a question of perspective.
If only subjects exist, then either it's solipsism, or it's subjective idealism, but either way it's only 1 "watcher", eventually.
So all 3 points of view have the same inevitable conclusion. And debating which one is the more "true" one is like debating between atom, tree, or forest. It's all the same thing, just a question of perspective.
Great debate, I was reading a comic strip from which a question was supposedly raised to "God" about which religion/perspective he preferred. The answer was "I don't care!" In some way this is the debate, does it really matter?
Not really, it doesn't have any influence in our daily lives, with our without having this knowledge ,you will still live your life the same way.
After death, I personally believe in reincarnation:
Either from the pantheistic view: as people die, the corpse is decaying, and it lives on in other animals and plants, as they incorporate them in their body.
Or from the subjectivist view, as the individual will come back, since it's the same being all the time, just in different forms.
But again, these 2 different views ,are actually the same thing. Because either way people won't have a memory of their past lives, since the data is inside the brain, and if the brain dies, it all goes away.
So dying and coming back to life without a memory of the past life, is exactly the same thing as when another person is being born. No difference.
Then Pantheism is true. And then materialism is true. And then there is no free will. And then Objectivism is true.
But this is exactly the same as subjectivism. So having free will and not having free will is exactly the same thing, it's just a question of perspective.
I know it sounds hard to comprehend, but eventually all roads lead to this conclusion. It's just how you get there defines what point of view you choose.
For example you can say that only objects exist, and then everything is just there. But that only means that it's the same object. The same way atoms come together and form a tree, and then trees come together an form a forest. Which one is there, the tree or the forest? Both. It's just a question of perspective.
If only subjects exist, then either it's solipsism, or it's subjective idealism, but either way it's only 1 "watcher", eventually.
So all 3 points of view have the same inevitable conclusion. And debating which one is the more "true" one is like debating between atom, tree, or forest. It's all the same thing, just a question of perspective.
Great debate, I was reading a comic strip from which a question was supposedly raised to "God" about which religion/perspective he preferred. The answer was "I don't care!" In some way this is the debate, does it really matter?
Not really, it doesn't have any influence in our daily lives, with our without having this knowledge ,you will still live your life the same way.
After death, I personally believe in reincarnation:
But again, these 2 different views ,are actually the same thing. Because either way people won't have a memory of their past lives, since the data is inside the brain, and if the brain dies, it all goes away.
So dying and coming back to life without a memory of the past life, is exactly the same thing as when another person is being born. No difference.