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RE: There Is No Such Thing As Free Will
To go beyond a "simple" electrical reaction an entity needs to be able to form concepts or abstractions from the perceived reality to the point that it can say "I am this" "That is that" and so forth.
not really that wow. it is just your own way to expresses electrical signals. plants have different way. how do you know your way us superior or that it makes you more "conscious"?
The fact we are having this conversation implies that at least one of us is "real" and can respond to abstract notions. Unless if we are both just a couple of sofisticated AI.
having this conversation does not make us more real than two plants exchanging pollen.
I don't have a way of knowing if there are plants that are aware of themselves. But that is not the argument. The point is that being able to interact with the enviroment is a pre-condition to obtain awareness but it's not enough.
Agreed. It doesn't make us more real but it does show that we can have an abstract conversation (in other words that we have awareness). Unless of course if we are a pair of automatons.
You don't get to call the shots what is enough if you don't understand how other living things perceive themselves. It is rather arrogant to do so.
We are more or less automatons. Much like a bird will dance to attract its mate in its own special abstract way it also follows a pattern by its species. We do the same. We use the same language yet we make similar alternations. Nonetheless, we fall into the same crevices.