Today i wake up and feel the emotion of sad, I then decide to exercise and feel better.
Conversely, today i wake up and feel normal. I still decide to exercise because I like it.
Today i wake up feeling sick, so i chose to call out of work.
Conversely today i wake up feeling sick chose to go to work anyway.
Saying we don't have free will to CHOSE our actions doesn't make sense. Comparing a feeling or emotion or mood to free will also doesn't make sense bevause free will isn't a MOOD.
Our emotions and feelings lead us to CHOSE certain things. But even if we didn't feel that way we may still chose the same thing.
Free will doesn't equal MOOD!
If your mood is affected by the flora in your gut, this the food you eat then there is no free will. If a cup of warm tea can make you feel warmer then there is no free will. If everything you are and everything you believe is product of your culture then there is no free will.
There is no evidence for free will because simply it is logically inconsistent. Humans are by-products of their environment. They don't and cannot exist independently from their ecosystems.
So you are telling me that if a flora in your gut makes you EXTREMELY depressed, you wouldn't chose to get out of bed if your house is on fire? (AKA free will)
Okay, agree to disagree...This is is circular logic and reminds me of:
Child: hey mom where'd god come from
Mother: well he's just always been here
Child: where did the earth come from?
Mother: god made it
Child: where did god come from
Mom: i told you he's always been here
Child: well who made god
Mother: no one did he's just always been here
^^^^an actual convo i had with my conservative Christian mother as a child. Circular logic. It doesn't answer questions it just keeps returning back to the same thing
Well yeah. you have an assumption that free will exists, much like religious people believe in God. If you can't prove that your actions are independent from the stimuli of your environment then you have no evidence that free will exists.
if someone asked you to make a choice based on the situation they have placed you (aka what happened to Neo) then your choice to make that choice was not yours. Hence why the second choice of taking one of the two pills cannot be free will.
So if your MOOD affects your actions (which you freely perform). Then yes there is free will
Define "freely perform".
Ok @josephd
Saying we don't have free will to CHOSE our actions doesn't make sense. Comparing a feeling or emotion or mood to free will also doesn't make sense bevause free will isn't a MOOD.
Our emotions and feelings lead us to CHOSE certain things. But even if we didn't feel that way we may still chose the same thing.
Free will doesn't equal MOOD!
Ok, but that's not what this is about. Read my other comment
Confused you asked to define "freely perform" @josephd
If your mood is affected by the flora in your gut, this the food you eat then there is no free will. If a cup of warm tea can make you feel warmer then there is no free will. If everything you are and everything you believe is product of your culture then there is no free will.
There is no evidence for free will because simply it is logically inconsistent. Humans are by-products of their environment. They don't and cannot exist independently from their ecosystems.
So you are telling me that if a flora in your gut makes you EXTREMELY depressed, you wouldn't chose to get out of bed if your house is on fire? (AKA free will)
No need to go to extreme examples. It could definitely affect your decision to pick up the phone, eat specific foods..etc
after all, this is how medication works. This is how illnesses affect your decisions.
no such thing as free will in a world where everything is interconnected.
Okay, agree to disagree...This is is circular logic and reminds me of:
Child: hey mom where'd god come from
Mother: well he's just always been here
Child: where did the earth come from?
Mother: god made it
Child: where did god come from
Mom: i told you he's always been here
Child: well who made god
Mother: no one did he's just always been here
^^^^an actual convo i had with my conservative Christian mother as a child. Circular logic. It doesn't answer questions it just keeps returning back to the same thing
Well yeah. you have an assumption that free will exists, much like religious people believe in God. If you can't prove that your actions are independent from the stimuli of your environment then you have no evidence that free will exists.
Lmao.
If someone asked me if I wanted the red pill or the blue pill
I have the free will to chose which one i want
if someone asked you to make a choice based on the situation they have placed you (aka what happened to Neo) then your choice to make that choice was not yours. Hence why the second choice of taking one of the two pills cannot be free will.
pretty basic logic really
Great comments mate! I actually made a video about this very subject the other month and I shared it on my blog today. Check it out! :]