lol. another unbiased media production! not...
perhaps if u experienced yourself u would know the truth... the BBC are the worst for biased docs. the real issue was that Sai Baba was 'taking money' from the Christian community donations and he had many people out to put him down...
Throughout my life I've met many people who claimed they possess powers etc., and among them I met a person who converted a family to Sai Baba's teachings, and he had a ring Sai Baba gave him that he kept like Golum. That was the first time I heard of him, so I dug a little and that doc was among the things that came up. When I showed the video to the family and the ringbearer, they said that wasn't Sai Baba, it was a doppelganger, an actor the BBC hired to impersonate him. I'm used to all kinds of excuses from the faithful! It doesn't matter, I've yet to be shown any proof that anything supernatural exists, but I'm still open, and will forever remain open, even hopeful!
I understand! When u dig deep you will find the supernatural is very much present everywhere.. but it takes a real earnest search and journey to be graced by miracles. Sai baba is just one example of many.. but really u wont find the truth on tv or by talking to others. Only through your own direct experience will you find the truth.. stay open that is great! Maybe visit India one day where the supernatural is normal and a way of life
Wouldn't it be very easy to prove though, like, very easy, if anything of this sort existed? That's why belief in the supernatural I find often goes hand-in-hand with conspiracy theories (governments trying to suppress the truth etc.) Like in India, one of the things you often find is meditators levitating. That would be extremely easy to prove, if true.
well i can prove it from my own experience.. but youll never see these things on TV.. you have to .. find it.. experience it yourself.. then you will have proof! I can never prove my experiences to you because you will always doubt.. Only when u taste the diving magic yourself, then you KnoW!
Well if you can prove it then I can't doubt! .. The nature of belief is, I think, divisive. This religion believes this thing, that religion believes that other thing, so let's kill each other to decide who's right. .. Science leaves no room for doubt, it gives the same results despite of your race or talents or location, and so it naturally brings people together. .. @rieki and I had a conversation here where he claimed he could leave his body, and I said "why that's one of the easiest things to prove!" Then he said it's not always successful, or that both parties involved have to believe in it, etc. The usual excuses! Sometimes I wonder whether the people who say they believe in their mystical experiences, actually believe in them!
Thanks for sharing your opinion alexander.alexis. But I would be more interested to hear how things are with your own integrity instead of hearing you talk about other peoples opinions about someone elses integrity.
Well, it depends what you mean by integrity. I guess the word means standing by the words you preach, or by your values. I studied philosophy, so I always tell the truth, for instance, or try. There are some exceptions. For instance, if I'm asked about affairs that are very personal, I believe I have the right to lie. Or the well-known philosophical example of the SS knocking on your door and asking you if you're hiding Jews in your home. I can imagine that maybe in a critical situation I would be at a loss and might tell a lie. I can imagine a whole lot of very difficult life-or-death situations that might challenge my values. But Sai Baba became filthy rich due to his con-artistry, it wasn't a life-or-death situation. Sorry about using those terms! But I grew up with James Randi and his cohorts, and I can tell a bad magician when I see one. Gurus are just part and parcel of Indian culture. I admire people like Krishnamurti who could have the world in their hand but chose not to. Now that is a man with integrity! That's a man that ought to be admired! But back to me, since that was the question. In my everyday life, far from the extreme examples of philosophers, I believe I have high integrity: I don't cheat, I don't lie, I don't use people, I actively research things that will teach me to be a better person, like feminism, racism, etc. I haven't delved deep into vegetarianism cos I'm worried I'll stop eating animals! :P
Hi alexander.alexis, Thanks for your reply, I appreciate it. I think it is beautiful if we try and become a better person every day. I think that is what human birth is for. I won't go in to what Sai Baba did or didn't do, that's your own little quest there. See you next post maybe.
lol. another unbiased media production! not...
perhaps if u experienced yourself u would know the truth... the BBC are the worst for biased docs. the real issue was that Sai Baba was 'taking money' from the Christian community donations and he had many people out to put him down...
Throughout my life I've met many people who claimed they possess powers etc., and among them I met a person who converted a family to Sai Baba's teachings, and he had a ring Sai Baba gave him that he kept like Golum. That was the first time I heard of him, so I dug a little and that doc was among the things that came up. When I showed the video to the family and the ringbearer, they said that wasn't Sai Baba, it was a doppelganger, an actor the BBC hired to impersonate him. I'm used to all kinds of excuses from the faithful! It doesn't matter, I've yet to be shown any proof that anything supernatural exists, but I'm still open, and will forever remain open, even hopeful!
I understand! When u dig deep you will find the supernatural is very much present everywhere.. but it takes a real earnest search and journey to be graced by miracles. Sai baba is just one example of many.. but really u wont find the truth on tv or by talking to others. Only through your own direct experience will you find the truth.. stay open that is great! Maybe visit India one day where the supernatural is normal and a way of life
Wouldn't it be very easy to prove though, like, very easy, if anything of this sort existed? That's why belief in the supernatural I find often goes hand-in-hand with conspiracy theories (governments trying to suppress the truth etc.) Like in India, one of the things you often find is meditators levitating. That would be extremely easy to prove, if true.
well i can prove it from my own experience.. but youll never see these things on TV.. you have to .. find it.. experience it yourself.. then you will have proof! I can never prove my experiences to you because you will always doubt.. Only when u taste the diving magic yourself, then you KnoW!
Well if you can prove it then I can't doubt! .. The nature of belief is, I think, divisive. This religion believes this thing, that religion believes that other thing, so let's kill each other to decide who's right. .. Science leaves no room for doubt, it gives the same results despite of your race or talents or location, and so it naturally brings people together. .. @rieki and I had a conversation here where he claimed he could leave his body, and I said "why that's one of the easiest things to prove!" Then he said it's not always successful, or that both parties involved have to believe in it, etc. The usual excuses! Sometimes I wonder whether the people who say they believe in their mystical experiences, actually believe in them!
Thanks for sharing your opinion alexander.alexis. But I would be more interested to hear how things are with your own integrity instead of hearing you talk about other peoples opinions about someone elses integrity.
Well, it depends what you mean by integrity. I guess the word means standing by the words you preach, or by your values. I studied philosophy, so I always tell the truth, for instance, or try. There are some exceptions. For instance, if I'm asked about affairs that are very personal, I believe I have the right to lie. Or the well-known philosophical example of the SS knocking on your door and asking you if you're hiding Jews in your home. I can imagine that maybe in a critical situation I would be at a loss and might tell a lie. I can imagine a whole lot of very difficult life-or-death situations that might challenge my values. But Sai Baba became filthy rich due to his con-artistry, it wasn't a life-or-death situation. Sorry about using those terms! But I grew up with James Randi and his cohorts, and I can tell a bad magician when I see one. Gurus are just part and parcel of Indian culture. I admire people like Krishnamurti who could have the world in their hand but chose not to. Now that is a man with integrity! That's a man that ought to be admired! But back to me, since that was the question. In my everyday life, far from the extreme examples of philosophers, I believe I have high integrity: I don't cheat, I don't lie, I don't use people, I actively research things that will teach me to be a better person, like feminism, racism, etc. I haven't delved deep into vegetarianism cos I'm worried I'll stop eating animals! :P
Hi alexander.alexis, Thanks for your reply, I appreciate it. I think it is beautiful if we try and become a better person every day. I think that is what human birth is for. I won't go in to what Sai Baba did or didn't do, that's your own little quest there. See you next post maybe.