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RE: St. Proculus church and museum

in #palnet5 years ago

ha! Howdy Martina! You know, that is a great ...how do I say it?...a great advantage of your vegan diet. You can promote it as being "anti-aging" right? That is a powerful selling point to anyone older than...35 or 40 right? And for most people it IS an anti-aging diet because the poisons of the typical diet are killing people off and definitely shortening their life spans.

Ok, that makes sense about the driving because I remember that you are some kind of crazy race car driver in your car! lol. Oh, the thing about being wrong twice...uh...I may have exaggerated just a little bit. But not much. They don't call me Mr. Perfect for nothing! lol.

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Well, I prefer to promote it as compassion more than a diet :) Anti-aging is just the side effect of what I'm going for animals. If you go vegan because of these things you might eventually slip back. But if you go vegan because you truly believe that animals feel pain, form families, have their own personalities and are very clever and when you're against speciesism then there is no way back.

Hahaha, I wouldn't call me that but I do enjoy driving fast :D

Oh, I'm used to your exaggerating already. Mrs. J must have a lot of work with you :D

Howdy Martina! So the main thrust of your veganism is because of what a typical diet does to animals? I agree with everything you mentioned about animals but I am not sure about them being very clever. I mean yes some are, but the ones used for food, I don't know if I would call them clever. But I'm open to being convinced of that attribute.

But "speciesism" ..that is a new term, what in the world is that? I don't know if it is good or bad!

Mrs. J. deals with me easily. She just ignores me!

Good morning cowboy :)

Yes, I've became vegan because of the compassion. Because I couldn't participate anymore in animals exploitation. Because I simply had to align my values with my actions. I couldn't say that I love animals and then eat them or wear products made from them. It just doesn't make sense. All animals are equal and I couldn't pet one and eat another. And if you make this click there is no other way than being vegan.

Pigs are the 5th most intelligent animals in the world. They are even more intelligent than dogs. They are highly social, form strong relationships and have a long-term memory. They are totally funny and behave just like dogs.

Cows are not that intelligent but they are very social, form friendships and can even fetch a ball! They cry so painfully just like we would if someone would steal our babies because someone else want to drink their milk. Once you hear how they cry you can never drink milk again.

Chickens are very intelligent and empathic! They pass the knowledge from generation to generation, can recognize faces (even human) and know that when you hide an object it is not lost and they will look for it.

They all experience joy, loneliness, pain, fear and all emotions just like dogs or even we do. So why eat one and pet another? This is also the principle of speciesism. It's like racism just with different species (to explain it briefly).

I could have long discussions about these things :)

Howdy today Martina! Yes I know cows well, I've raised alot of them. I forgot about pigs, yes they are so smart! Your argument is totally logical about petting one and killing another! I've become such a softie when it comes to animals, I used to just kill anything.

I'm so happy to hear that you became a softie with them! Well done! And what about going one step further and trying a vegan diet for some time? I could give you some material and you could join 21 days challenge with professionals who could help you with any questions :) You can do it!

I'll take you up on that if I decide to try it. 21 days sounds like a long time though, lol! I would have to get Mrs. J. on board and I have no idea what she thinks but my guess is that she would consider it.

You made my day John!!! I'm so glad that you say it. Oh, I'm sure that Mrs. J will be excited :) Just tell her that she'll get better skin, better hair and she'll be glowing :)

21 days is not long at all and if you do it right then you will not want to eat animals again :)

The challenge is here: https://challenge22.com/about/. You will find all the information that you need.

Here you can find some books and more resources: https://www.anonymousforthevoiceless.org/resources. You can also watch some documentaries to understand the impact of factory farming on various aspects of our lives such as health, environment, etc.

You can also download the daily dozen app that will help you to keep track of what you eat per day to stay healthy: https://nutritionfacts.org/daily-dozen-challenge/. I use it and I really like it. Sometimes we tend to forget eating certain group of foods and this helps you to remind you that you haven't eaten it yet that day.

For the recipe inspirations you can check out:

https://www.exceedinglyvegan.com/
https://www.thebuddhistchef.com/
https://www.onegreenplanet.org/

If you would need any further help just let me know. I will be happy to assist :)

Let me know when you start the challenge..

Howdy Martina! thanks for all the information links, that will take me awhile to go through, I will bookmark this page so I won't lose the links!

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