Podcast explains why I debated Mark Collett about Israel, Zionism and the myth of a Jewish ethno-state

in #palnet5 years ago (edited)


On Tuesday night I took part in a 2 hour YouTube Hangout debating Israel, white nationalism and ethno-states with Mark Collett and other people at the invitation of Joseph from the Israel Advocacy Network. Joseph took down his live stream copy and replaced it with a short explanatory video.

These are my follow up comments on the debate. Below the video I’ll post the comment I put on 3Speak when I posted the complete video yesterday evening and you can find that at the link. This video is a disection of who Mark Collett is, my interpretation of his views and how he puts them forward.

▶️ Watch on 3Speak

To answer a specific set of questions being thrown at me on Twitter (which I don’t address in the video), I don’t give a damn what colour Jews in Israel are. I’m unconcerned at nonsense such as “would I care if Israel become a majority black state”. I’m unconcerned by the skin colour but I’m deeply concerned that Israel remain Jewish which probably means a Jewish majority (no matter what skin colour we all are) and that the dominant culture and basis for law remain Jewish. Where we draw the boundaries on religious observance remains ours to debate. I don’t like Jews marrying out of Judaism but I don’t see that it is the role of a government to stop it.

I don’t foresee or necessarily advocate for a removal of non-Jews from the country, so long as those who remain do so under the strict knowledge that they are in a Jewish country and that any desire to change that most basic nature of the country is not to be tolerated.

This is what I posted alongside the full debate video.

This debate was organised by Joseph of the Israel Advocacy Network who invited me on it. With some hesitation I agreed to take part despite knowing exactly who Mark Collett is and what he says. I'm also pretty familiar with his (real) neo-Nazi audience.

I knew he'd bring along a bunch of ridiculous and skewed Ha'aretz and Guardian articles (he had all the ones I expected) and his usual grab bag of updated versions of the Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion and Culture of Critique.

The live chat was a cesspool and I believe the chat caused the original to be removed.

As bad as Mark is and what he represents, I don't believe he will ever achieve great success or reach. He'll speak to his crowd of devoted followers but going through life blaming Jews for everything you don't have will never be a successful strategy. Sure you can take Poland with a tank or two but eventually, with a bit of luck, freedom and sanity will win over again.

For the main reason that Mark's views are not mainstream anywhere in any semblance of authority, I don't regard them as a serious existential threat (and no, Orban, Salvini, the AFD and other on the new right in Europe aren't as bad as Mark). The far-left and Islam run countries, academia and the media: that's a real threat.

Joseph has posted a short video explaining why his version of the live chat has gone down but as the alt-right and the neo-Nazis are posting the video in full, for the record, so will I. I don't believe Mark made his points to anything but his own audience and I'll explain more in my own video soon.

So here it is, unedited and up on an immutable block chain site.



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The left is by and large a much larger majority than the far-right neo-nazis.

Imaginea circle and the two ends meeting up at a single point where they seem almost indistinguishable. Remember nazi's were national SOCIALISTS. It's more the left than alt-right.

It is becoming more and more apparent to me, having encountered several natsoc types on free speech platforms, that they do indeed live up to the socialist part of the name. I've been on Gab now for a couple of months and whilst I've met some very cool fellow libertarians and conservative types who also believe in free speech, there are a lot of nazi wannabes running around freely too (which I knew but it's a price I was willing to pay for free expression.) They have all the hallmarks of socialists - envy, resentment, whiny victimhood narrative, lack of self-responsibility for problems (it's always someone else's fault!) Intsocs just peddle the class-based narrative ("muh rich people") and natsocs the racial one. The end result is the same, with the result that I've started calling them "swastiflakes" and "NJWs". They're laughable really and I've just got used to their talking points and tend now to just avoid them - they'll always end up like all those rather pitiful Hitler Youth who ended up surrendering to the western allies as the war drew to a close in Europe. There are more people now too posting debunking materials countering their arguments as Gab's user base grows, which is heartening to see.

What a stacked deck. 4 versus 2 what was really more like 4 versus 1 because the indian capitulated all of the time. Still got destroyed. I linked some good analysis to help you understand the name calling and ad hominem attacks created by the majority to defend an untenable position. Thought you would have picked someplace other than an open forum that can't be memory holed.
http://www.republicbroadcastingarchives.org/national-bugle-radio-with-patrick-slattery-6-19-19/
http://www.republicbroadcastingarchives.org/national-bugle-radio-with-patrick-slattery-6-20-19/

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