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RE: The Problem with PAL and Ponderings

in #pal5 years ago

You can vote from any interface you chose. If you have staked Pal and the person you vote on is using the palnet tag, you will distribute Pal to them.

Thanks for clearing that up!

There is still somewhat of an incentive to use PALnet though, so you award with your PAL, which does mean that you're possibly ignoring friends not using PAL.

I think it might be a good idea for front-ends to choose to distinguish posts using these tags in the future as well. Lets say a big number of users start using PAL, people involved in PAL might want to recognize posts by those users so they upvote them and reward them more.

There is already a real advantage to use PALnet or just it's keyword. That in turn means there's a disadvantage for those not using it. When we do have a ton of different communities, it might mean that the community is segregated into a ton of different smaller communities. If they bring in a ton of new users who each hold their own Steem Power, it will be good for Steem...but if a bunch of people are all focusing on their own communities, it might mean it will be even harder for people that aren't part of those communities.

Of course, being able to use whatever interface you want and still award PAL or whatever token is great...but there is incentive to vote for PALnet posts, and there will be for similar communities in the future. I feel like there is a risk that people may be forced to post in these communities to have a chance to earn. Maybe it will be fine...or maybe we'll end up split apart and parts of our own teams, with some major benefits and problems depending on which you belong to or post in.

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There is still somewhat of an incentive to use PALnet though, so you award with your PAL, which does mean that you're possibly ignoring friends not using PAL.

? I'm confused. Maybe you're misunderstanding, but you can award Pal from any interface, the only incentive to use the Palnet frontend is if you want an automatic filter of only people using the palnet tag. There is no economic incentive to use it.

I think it might be a good idea for front-ends to choose to distinguish posts using these tags in the future as well.

I've already suggested this to Steempeak and I think they're working on something along these lines.

There is already a real advantage to use PALnet or just it's keyword. That in turn means there's a disadvantage for those not using it.

Well, that's sort of like saying everyone who declines payout is at a disadvantage to the people who don't decline payout. Yes, I suppose that's true, but there's a simple solution, don't decline payout(use the palnet tag)

When we do have a ton of different communities, it might mean that the community is segregated into a ton of different smaller communities.

Couple things, so if you post something on Palnet, it still shows up on the main chain, so again, these communities aren't walled off. If someone just goes to Steemit or Steempeak, they'll see posts from every community. But the other thing is I think this is desperately needed for Steem. Currently Steem is like Reddit without subreddits. That's why it's so hard for each user to discover relevant content. It will definitely(IMO) be MUCH better when there are tons of niche communities.

I'm confused. Maybe you're misunderstanding, but you can award Pal from any interface, the only incentive to use the Palnet frontend is if you want an automatic filter of only people using the palnet tag.

That's what I was saying. There's an incentive to ensure you're voting for mostly PALnet users.

It will definitely(IMO) be MUCH better when there are tons of niche communities.

There should be communities. And I think Steemit kinda dropped the ball on developing them. I guess they were waiting for SMT's. Who knows. Not like they're very communicative. Communities need more than just their own coin though. I don't think that's necessarily a requirement in fact. Mainly they need communication tools. I don't think this is the way to go about making them.

You have said very succinctly what I have been thinking about all this. Thanks for that.

I think saying 'well people will only vote for PALnet content' is like saying people will only vote for X content. Good content. Fiction content. Gaming content. Crypto content. I thought that was the point of tags. Find things you are interested and help tag it as good or Interesting by voting.

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