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RE: OSINT exercise - Mandalay Bay Casino Shooting

in #osint7 years ago

Where did Paddock get multiple automatic weapons?

Vegas rents these. Probably not overnight. Haven't watched the videos, but some have said it sounded like AKs. "Roommate" Marilou Danley has traveled to the Mid-East (Dubai) and with Vegas as a location, could easily be a travel agent of some sort, which would give her access to smuggle weapons in.

Lived in Florida and Nevada

It seems all places confirmed for where he lived were after 2010. He had a Twitter account opened in 2010, which followed several Chicago based Twitter accounts (sports, news, etc). If it was his account, what was the fascination with Chicago, if he didn't live there.

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Haven't watched the videos, but some have said it sounded like AKs.

Look at this video and tell me it doesn't sound like shots are coming from 2 guns. Or is it an echo?

https://twitter.com/VOP_World/status/914755301844320257

Or this.

https://twitter.com/CollinRugg/status/914737490786783232

I would go with echo.
Mandalay Bay isn't straight across, it has a curve and would easily cause that noise.

someone claimed countersniper ops experience, and that his opinion was single shooter based on watching the vids

https://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/143703152#p143703569

idk

/k/ here. Rifle bullets travel faster than the speed of sound. That means you will hear a crack and then a bang. The crack is the supersonic bullet breaking the sound barrier, then you will hear a bang, because the muzzle blast is traveling slower than the bullet. So at range when being fired on, you will effectively hear 2 "gunshots for every round fired.

Idk man, to me it sounds like at least 2 guns were firing at the same time. Who knows.

Good comment on pol:

Just for the record if he really did get 50+ fatalities from gunfire only, he's number 3 on the global high score list and number ONE on the USA high score list.

It wouldn't be hard to get that many casualties when firing directly into an unprotected crowd that big. He fired a lot of shots.

When I first heard it I was thinking either the supersonic bullet sound issue as described below or also sounds reflecting off of nearby buildings.

I also tend to agree with those who think it was a belt-fed mg, going by the sound.

At first, I thought it was either a B.A.R. or a belt fed M-1919 machinegun because of the slow cyclic rate of automatic fire. But, when I found out that at least several of his rifles had bumpfire stocks, that explains the slower cyclic rate of fire. It takes longer between shots with a bumpfire stock because of the way it works.

Paddock used AR-15 and AK-47-style rifles, at least 1 fully automatic; Investigators found 18 to 20 firearms in alleged gunman’s hotel room

https://www.wsj.com/articles/las-vegas-suspect-likely-used-automatic-rifle-in-massacre-1506966716?mg=prod/accounts-wsj

ATF will have the answers in a few days.

Getting weirder...

Las Vegas killer had an arsenal of 42 guns, 23 in his hotel room and 19 in his house, police say

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/10/02/us/las-vegas-shooter/index.html?sr=twCNN100317las-vegas-shooter1029AMVODtop

According to news and pictures that I saw on Zero Hedge, several of the rifles had "Bumpfire" stocks. You can effectively shoot a semi auto rifle as a full auto with a bumpfire stock with a bit of practice. That would explain the slower cyclic rate of automatic fire heard in the video.
Apparently there was at least 1 fully automatic rifle in the room. As he was a rich dude with no criminal record, he could have legally bought a full auto weapon from a class 3 dealer.
There was also a rather gruesome picture of him laying on the floor with blood pooling around the back of his head. From the picture, it looked like he put the barrel of his revolver, also in the picture, into his mouth and pulled the trigger.

Here's the link to the story on Zero Hedge. In the pictures of the guns, you can clearly see the bumpfire stocks on a couple of the rifles. There's also the picture of him on the floor.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-10-03/vegas-shooter-filmed-himself-during-slaughter-suicide-photo-emerges

Three pieces of good data right there; would you source them, please?

That is one of the main goals of the post, to be able to source facts. That way they can be verified or discredited, and we can move ever closer to the Truth!

Stephen Paddock Twitter Account ~ https://twitter.com/THEPADS/

While it is up.

Following

  • Cheryl ScottVerified - Meteorologist @ABC7Chicago
  • Anna Davlantes - Host, WGN 720 Radio.
  • BMOHarrisBankCenter - Home of the Rockford Ice Hogs, suburb of Chicago
  • Jon Jay 2Js - Just a kid from Miami Go Cubs Go Man on a mission

Other focus is St. Louis Cardinals.

  • Mike Matheny - @Cardinals Manager
  • Matt Carpenter - STL Cardinal
  • St. Louis Cardinals - official twitter

No tweets. But, two images on the account to recognize him.

barb wire tat around upper right arm...prior service?

And the Superman logo on the other side?
Probably just hanging out with the wrong crowd. Barbwire tattoo seems like a trend from the 90s or later, not something to get while serving.

Marilou Danley - last image is from Dubai. Since she was an Australian citizen, Dubai isn't out of the ordinary.
~ http://heavy.com/news/2017/10/marilou-danley-photos-marylou-danly-mary-lou-stephen-paddock-wife-girlfriend-facebook-las-vegas-shooting/

not bad looking for her 60s

Danley was cleared and was out of the country when the attack occurred
how convenient

The last picture is more telling.
I'm not ruling her out. Did you see the video of the girl who said some old lady came up to her and said "You all are going to die tonight." The girl said she was Hispanic, I think ol' Marilou could be mistaken for Hispanic.

yes, listed as one of the QUESTIONS to verify

and agreed she could be mistaken for a latina

my unverified opinion is that theses are on site rentals.

I need to dig down and get the source social media accounts of the people involved

My unverified knowledge remembers that you can rent them and take them out to a desert range. But, if he wanted to practice before hand, the on-site rentals are probably very discreet.

But, I agree, that he probably could not have rented them overnight. But, in Vegas, I'm sure with the right amount of cash, you could probably get something.

At least 27 addresses were found belonging to Paddock in public records, and at one point he moved to Mesquite, Nevada.

So, it is going to be hard to pinpoint him to an address. He's almost a ghost.

He's almost a ghost.

Las Vegas shooter Stephen Paddock is son of Benjamin Paddock, bank robber once on FBI most-wanted list.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/stephen-paddock-father-las-vegas-shooting-fbi-most-wanted-list-robber-family-a7979521.html

His brother says that they didn't know their father very well.
However, if Stephen had lived almost 30 different places in 60 years, it would seem he understood the fugitive life very well.

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