Fair enough. I had heard the name Poke Runyon, but didn't really know who they were. GD stuff was never really my thing. When I said 'I don't know them all' I didn't mean 'I don't know any'. I meant, ' I know sumbunall the others'. I also meant I didn't know enough about them to state if any might still be living. Obviously I had heard of Regardie, even have one of his books. Or Dana does. The name Nigel Jackson rings a bell, I probably read a vampire book of his a while back.