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RE: POLITICAL PORNO #3 : VENEZUELA, PROPAGANDA AND TWERKIN'

in #nsfw7 years ago

2:40 in and i have to just throw in: The US doesn't want the oil from Venezuela. Since they finally started fucking up their own country bigtimes with fracking oil has become a way less important resource for which it's not even worth doing anything for. Problems with Maduro also include, but are not limited to, his style of economical politics which has led to some shortages of supplies, including toiletpaper. He also interacts with companies in a very dangerous way, as he tries to destroy businesses in Venezuela out of the mindset that they are some kind of evil. First thing to happen was that when he started fucking up companies, they started to fear for their workers, even extracting foreign workers. Also they aren't able to get their cash out of Venezuela, which is a bigtime spit into the face of the whole system we live in. He can disagree with capitalism, it obviously has it's flaws, but he can't just start fighting foreign companies in his own country as they are an important participant of the local economy even if they aren't local businesses. Especially in a globalized world those companies stopping their businesses in Venezuela means that Venezuelas Economy gets fucked big times. And those are things that went on before the media even cared for Maduro. Another issue lies within the different perspectives from inside a fucked up system and outside. Whilst inside North Korea for example, people often don't even know what bad things happen. They only see what happens around them and read their media and believe it just due to it being local. From the outside you obviously don't report on every country without problems how they didn't have any major problems in the last week. On the other hand it's interesting to people when somewhere a country is fucked up. Therefore those in Venezuela don't see the bigger picture and are limited to a certain range of view around their location, on the other hand those from outside get a worse picture of Venezuela than it really is. But it's not fine there and if someone wanted to overthrow it actively based on lies they would do the original USA bullshit and just come up with a good reason to attack within short time or they would not even talk about it and infiltrate a country to overthrow it's government from the inside. That's btw what actually already happened once in Venezuela. The recent reporting doesn't show any characteristics of an bigger agenda pushed through media. Also another indication for this being something real instead of an overthrow by outside governments is that for those that cared more about international politics as a whole, Venezuela was already fucked up long before it got into the mainstream.

Big important checklist for going on overthrows by outside governments:
Who wants to overthrow whom? (according to you the USA and Canada)
What is their motivation? (according to you Oil)
Is this really a relevant motivation? (nope, as the USA figured out their supply bigtimes).
Is the way it's done efficient? (nope, as it is going on for years now, at least for those more informed)
Are the informations used something new that just appeared out of the blue? (nope, as stated before)

This case doesn't have the characteristics of any sort of overthrow and besides that there is no valid reason for it, as the only possible resource isn't that relevant to those supposedly working behind the curtain.

Also at around minute 7 i want to refer back to a point i already made: As Venezuela stopped foreign companies from getting their cash out of there, there is no valid reason for outside companies to do business in Venezuela as they'd have to invest without having any chance of return. Therefore Maduro selffucked his economy and this is the reason for missing toiletpaper and other basic groceries.

Also the American media isn't an evil government operation, as witnessed by the relationship between US media and the current government.

BTW in general, South America is fucked in many places. Brazil has shit logistics, Argentina went from one of the most prosperous countries in the world to a third world country by doing the same "no money to foreign companies" policy and many others have their own wars, like Columbia with drug cartels. Maybe in 50 years South America will be the new Africa.

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all interesting points...buut its still shady. If we don't want their oill...we want something or we would NOT give a fuck. Seriously. And by "we" I mean mainstream media. The fact that they're reporting Maduro as evil is..suspicious. I agree that the economic war is a two way street at this point and he is being...well.. beneath what one would prefer from any society. But that doesn't mean the US and Canada have no interest. We would not report on it if we didn't care. So what I get from your lengthy comment is that perhaps it isn't oil. I wonder what it is then because it's definitely not because Maduro is evil. We ally with tons of evil dictators, so....just fishy is all I'm sayin'.....

i always get suspicious when our media pretends to care about some kind of civil or economic problem, and tend to assume they're full of shit. which they are, even if they aren't full of shit in the way i proposed..

Just throwing in, media != government
It's their job to report on interesting things, locally as well as globally. They do their job. If it was a conspiracy the government itself would claim to have found weapons of mass destruction (Irak), claim to be attacked without any prove after stationing their ship close to their target in order to provoke their enemies (Vietnam) or organise a coup d'état (1953 Iran, 1973 Chile). Just reporting about it is not at all a sign of the government wanting to overthrow some random country's leaders, it's just the media doing their job, which is reporting about the stuff that happens around the world. There are way more convenient ways for governments as powerful as the USA. So once again, nothing to find here, not every reporting is a state-organized conspiracy.

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