Noam Chomsky: "The general population doesn’t know what’s happening, and it doesn’t even know that it doesn’t know..!!"

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Noam Chomsky:

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Some quotes are worth repeating..... "The general population doesn’t know what’s happening, and it doesn’t even know that it doesn’t know..!!" Noam Chomsky.

Some of you may wonder why I have blogged this quote, and others will know EXACTLY why I have.

If you fall into the first group then you are in safe hands here at STEEMIT.

If you fall into the latter group then it is up to us to educate the first group what we mean.

For the ones unfamiliar with this quote it is one that I use regularly and for the ones in group one, let me try and explain.

If you think that what you have been told is the truth then I am afraid you are in for a nasty shock.

The Mainstream Narrative that you have been told is the truth is anything but and humanity is on course to be dealt a tsunami of revelations that is set to rip to core fabric of humanity itself.

How the ones in group one deal with these shocking revelations will be up to the individuals themselves.

I have no doubts at all that there will be some, that no matter how horrifically distorted the truth has been manipulated they will simply choose to ignore it as their defence mechanism kicks in.

As for the ones in group two, it is up to us to put our arms round them and assure them that everything will be OK.

If you are like me, I have tried over the years to talk to my friends and family about what has gone on in the past and most have chose simply to ignore it.

The best approach is simply to lay out your stories and leave them, knowing that when the first revelations comes out, it will be easy for you to convince them that the rest of what you have been saying is right..!!

The words "....I told you so..." will never be used, instead when the time does comes I will use the words, ".....everything will be just fine..!!"

Thanks again for reading.

Stephen

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respect brother - real talk.

Cheers. I appreciate that. Stephen

So true, and what is so badly needed is something like a
Truth and Reconciliation effort to help us recover from this
terrible public disease.

Open Source Intelligence is a term that describes what is easily obtained through non-secret, unclassified, reputable and reliable sources. It actually surpasses what well funded, secret, devious, numbskull organizations seem to know.

Look into James Corbett and The Corbett Report on U-Tube for hours and hours of high quality expositions of what every human being who cares should know.

"Autonomy and freedom are the pillars of the problem of the construction of the post-Scarcity, post-Truth and post-Destruction Era" -charlie777pt

In this quote, I found a lot of the actual sign of the times.
"Some psychologists have advocated comprehensive social change in a decentralist, anarchist, egalitarian, or community-focused direction (Chomsky, 1973; Fox, 1985, in press; Fromm, 1955; Goodman, 1966/1979; Maslow, 1971; Sarason, 1976/1982). Others have noted the importance of social change to increase empowerment (Rappaport, 1981, 1987), cooperation (Kohn, 1986), distributive justice (Deutsch, 1985), and resistance to unjust authority (Kelman & Hamilton, 1989) and to decrease consumerism and materialism (Wachtel, 1983) and "surplus powerlessness" (M. Lerner, 1986)." - Psychological Jurisprudence and Radical Social Change -Dennis R. Fox (1993)

Somethings are that good, they deserve repeating....

"Some psychologists have advocated comprehensive social change in a decentralist, anarchist, egalitarian, or community-focused direction...".

Thanks for your comment. Stephen

With great claims comes the burden of great evidence.

Speculations are as good as anyone can get without true substantiation. If these speculations are corroborated, then how we work with them is what will define the future.

Shouldn't you take a bit of your advice and go back to the conversation you abandoned or currently persist as a hypocrite based on your ideology?

If you think that what you have been told is the truth then I am afraid you are in for a nasty shock.

https://steemit.com/police/@dullhawk/police-is-not-a-race-it-s-a-gang

I'd actually forgotten about it, lol. And in all reality I don't care much. There is not going to be any agreement between us on that point so I moved on.
Also....why did you get flagged? ._.

That's fine but right now it makes you a hypocrite, with great claims there comes the burden of great evidence to back them up. You've yet to provide evidence to back up your claim that police were created in this country to uphold the law and maintain liberty. Right now it's not about agreeing at all, it's about being a hypocrite at this point.

That you don't care and you forgotten about it is an understandable but I want to know how you forgot about it as you've made a comment after my comment to you, it seems like you avoided commenting.

Who knows why he's flagging me, my best guess is that after exposing @htooms for his hypocrisy and possibly being an account manned by one fyrstikeen he got mad and decided to retaliate, but that's just a guess, and I don't care to ask him why he's flagging me with his sockpuppet accounts, especially after he called me a dicksucker.

shrug It doesn't require much evidence as it's not even that great of a claim. The only people who disagree with the notion that the police's purpose is to uphold liberty and justice is anarchists, so it is very much so a disagreement on an ideologically fundamental level.

OPs claim of knowing some deeper truth that others don't. That is quite a bold claim that requires much substantiation.

If you won't drop something discussed in the past, then at this point I'm just going to label you as obsessive over it and hence forth ignore you. Reasonable enough?

The claim that police were established to uphold liberty and justice is a bold faced lie in the face of facts. Police have been established to round up runaway slaves, the police forces we have today have been founded directly from slave patrols.

The OPs claim is not the issue at all, it is your premise that was entwined into your argument repeatedly, that police were established to uphold liberty and justice. Their purpose aside you pointed to their inception and the why and how of that being legitimate and therefore not a gang, when in fact they are a gang through and thorough, which is why I pointed out that quote about challenging your beliefs from this post, granted right now I've very much successfully hijacked it but it wasn't my intention for that I apologize @stephenkendal, sought to point out that if you live by that ideology it makes you a hypocrite, as you abandoned that discussion first of all, where I challenged your argument, but more importantly I brought evidence supporting the fact that police weren't established to maintain liberty, quite the contrary they were established to maintain slavery.

Couldn't let dead dogs stay dead.
Again, we're at a completely fundamental approach. What you're talking about are "proto-police" forces that the south had before the civil war. Before that time during the colonies, they were equal to bounty hunters and that's it. You're morally bankrupt if you have nothing else to compare them to than things that have been long since gone for a decade+. You've committed an ad hoc plain and simple.

'dead dog' is not an argument, it is a cop out.

Your entire argument is derived from the same fantasy as before, now though you've danced around providing any evidence that police were the result of maintaining liberty, instead you focused on marginalizing the purpose of slave patrols to bounty hunters, and their inception and those implications of their purpose into things that have been long since gone, when nothing is further from the truth as you can see in statistics of cop on black violence.

No they weren't bounty hunters, they were institutionalized:

Colonists in Jamestown, Virginia, first purchased African slaves from Dutch traders in 1619, just a dozen years after the colony’s founding. As the number of slaves grew, so did the white community’s need to police them. Borrowing liberally from Barbadian slave laws, colonists adopted slave patrols as a formal institution by the middle of the 18th century. These were among the first police forces in the colonies.

No, these things have not long been gone:

“Complexion has influenced the focus of law enforcement from this nation’s very beginnings; the first organized police forces, according to police historian William Geller, were the varied slave patrols,” Muwakkil wrote. “Policing in this country has always had the dual purpose of maintaining social order and enforcing the racial hierarchy.”

No ad hoc, plain and simple, it's providing evidence counter to your claim that they were established to maintain liberty. Nothing is further from the truth:

“the literature clearly establishes that a legally sanctioned law enforcement system existed in America before the Civil War for the express purpose of controlling the slave population and protecting the interests of slave owners. The similarities between the slave patrols and modern American policing are too salient to dismiss or ignore. Hence, the slave patrol should be considered a forerunner of modern American law enforcement.”

Law enforcement has never been about maintaining liberty, period, and it certainly isn't about that today. It's about the immorality of imposing the will of people that have the delegated rights that individuals cannot have, nor delegate. Moral bankruptcy is to defend such things and to skirt around such issues, as long as a group of people can do what no individuals are allowed to do, such as impose arbitrary mandates, enforce those mandates, kidnap and murder those that break or resist their mandates, extort wealth through the threat of force or coercion, as long as you are for these things you have no moral ground to stand on, your linchpin is defending immorality.

"As a direct result, a series of riots occurred throughout the 1830s in numerous American cities. Many of these riots were the result of poor living conditions, poverty, and conflicts between ethnic groups. These riots directly illustrated the need for larger and better organized law enforcement. Both the watch systems in the north and the slave patrols in the south began to evolve into modern police organizations that were heavily influenced by modern departments developing in England during the same time (Walker, 1999).

There is nothing more to discuss, as you've brought unwarranted drama by bringing a disagreement on another post to a different place. Good day, and good riddance.

I don't think there's any need to express what you're going to label me especially since the discussion was simply abandoned and not concluded, so whatever you wish to label me isn't my problem at that point then.

There's an old saying: "As long as Bubba can afford payments on his bass boat, he doesn't care what's happening."

In response to your closing paragraph I have to agree with you whole heartedly. Proeple are afraid to live in the real world so they create one in their mind and fill it with ignorant bliss.
Chomsky and Zinn. Two of my favorite authors. I don't want to be to cliche, but I have to pay homage to the man. Thanks and praise Howard you're missed.
Great post. Thank you. V

Thanks for your comment and support. Stephen

Big fan of Noam. Have a number of his books in my collection

Love that quote and so true!

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