RE: Australian Woman Shot by Cop
While I wasn't here, I voiced loud support for Philando Castille, Trayvon Martin, and Sam Dubose (a friend of a friend). I think this is one of the most obvious not because of race. I think I made that clear. It's obviously "bad" from a procedural, investigative standpoint. Video disabled, no explanation, partner "stunned", type of call they were responding to, and the amount of information they had. If you read the transcripts, they were responding to a possible female subject being raped. They had every reason to see her as the possible victim and no reason to suspect her, based on what we know.
I'm not saying that none of this is about race, and I'm not apologizing for racists. What I'm saying is if you focus on an obvious issue, and a hot button one, you create argument instead of discussion, which is not productive. Police departments need to reform their hiring, training, and leadership processes. No department, or person, will ever be perfectly free of racism until the world is, which isn't happening any time soon.
I still post updates about Trayvon, Philando and Sam on my twitter. I have nothing but disgust for their killers, regardless of the melanin content of their skin or genetic makeup. But when oppressed people, and I believe we all are, worldwide, fight amongst themselves, the really heinous stuff goes on unnoticed.
You're just an individual, I was talking about society as a whole.
It's hard to take your social justice warrior claims that you were just as bothered by all the minorities being shot when you're still holding on to a stance that this shooting was somehow more egregious.
It wasn't. There have been lots of cases where people where murdered by cops on video, yet no outrage by the majority.
You're just more empathetic towards this victim because she looks more like you, you mother, and those you care about.
Here are the facts:
Where's the All Lives Matter crowd? Where is the Blue Lives Matter crowd?
You really think this hypocrisy goes unnoticed?
Unfortunately, I think the time for discussion has since passed. Hard to see anyone fixing this mess.
I don't think the shooting is the most egregious at all. I think the case will be the easiest to convict based on the facts. The point of the article which everyone else seems to get is that arguing about the racial implications of a case like this makes it harder for justice to be done. All you have to do is read up on the Sam Dubose/Ray Tensing case in my hometown to see what impact of social media and racial tension has on the justice system. Nearly every legal mind that evaluated that case called it a clear cut case of manslaughter and possibly murder depending on the testimony and evidence presented in court. And he walked, due a mistrial mind you, twice because of a hung jury. That should not happen in a court of law.
With regard to your specific points:
Its already on record that the shot came from the car as she approached and that his partner was "stunned". See what I did there? Its called reading.
I haven't heard that he said he was "scared for his life" . His only statement that I've heard is that he expressed his "condolences" through his attorney and asked people to respect his privacy, and also has refused to cooperate with the investigation. Generally when you cite new information in a discussion like this you provide a source, like this
I agree with you that discussions about racism are not fixing the issue but you cannot say that the time for discussion has passed. That leaves only one option and we only have to look at history and the current state of many nations all over the world to see that the alternative is just as pointless and far more destructive.
Your implication that I'm more empathetic to this victim is baseless and insulting and reveals your true purpose which is to troll people who don't agree with your specific viewpoint without actually stating what that viewpoint is. You provide judgement and criticism with no reliable point of view or research. You couldn't even be bothered to find the names of the PEOPLE KILLED in your first post. "What about that one?" is nothing. It means your purpose is to churn the chum that others are dumping in the waters to get the sharks excited. You would do well to read more and talk less until you gain a bit of perspective. @mmaartmartial
You keep running away from the truth.
The cop will likely be convicted because he is a black (enemy number one), Somalian (damn immigrants), Muslim (terrorist) who shot a white female (angel who can't do any wrong).
I'm sorry if my bluntness offends you. Not really...
Well you are entitled to your opinion.Pre-judgment is the root of the problem so this has been the perfect example of the point I was trying to make. Thanks for being you. @mmaartmartial
No need for personal attacks because the truth frightens you guy.
Quotes from you. It's been personal, I was just choosing to avoid it. I was thanking you for illustrating my point so masterfully. Couldn't have found a better object lesson if I tried. No attack. Just a little sarcasm. No hard feelings, just a tough situation and a lot of opinions.
"Don't expect others to give a fuck now that you're uncomfortable with who the victim is"
"It's hard to take your social justice warrior claims that you were just as bothered by all the minorities being shot when you're still holding on to a stance that this shooting was somehow more egregious"
"You're just more empathetic towards this victim because she looks more like you, you mother, and those you care about"
Okay, you can have the last word bro...
I like toast 🍞
Me too :)
How should we fix this sadness?