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RE: Multiple Studies Show Teen Suicide Rates Explode During School Year
and that many teenage hardships are exacerbated by these websites, it is also true that school has been driving children to suicide since well before Steve Jobs invented the iPhone.
but this all happened after he invented the iPhone:
When we looked at hospitalizations for suicidal ideation and suicidal encounters over the last decade, essentially 2008 to 2015, we found that the rates doubled among children that were hospitalized for suicidal thoughts or activity
Schooling didn't change or double in intensity during that period did it?
Summer is awesome, why would any kid commit suicide in summer?
Suicide rates are seasonal and most suicides occur in spring, when school happens to be in session.
Which would indicate that social media exacerbates an already pre-existing issue. When you look at public schooling objectively, it is a system that, by design, stamps out creativity and promotes conformity and obedience.
Creativity is overrated. Most jobs don't require it. A lot of public schooling is a relic of the industrial age. That where we are seeing some disconnect. A lot of silly old brick buildings with teachers and books, very anachronistic. In the next decade or so all public schools will go online. School will just be an app on children's devices. Then no more school shootings, school bus crashes, physical fights or diddling to worry about. No more pencils no more books no more teachers dirty looks. And then kids will be free to upset and isolate themselves and be harassed and bullied online full time until some of them kill themselves. Most importantly it will be much cheaper for school districts and generate better test scores than brick and mortar schools.
Right. Because critical thought really doesn't help anyone.
Your criticisms of public schools are well-placed, as is your criticism of social media and its impact. However, social media exacerbates pre-existing problems. It's not the cause of them.
That's funny I said "creativity" and then you said "critical thought". In some cases social media exacerbates existing problems, in other cases it creates new ones.
It's funny, right? As though I were implying there was a very strong correlation between the two, and fostering one has the added effect of encouraging the other, and vice versa.
Yes, social media does create new problems. In this case, this isn't something new.
For most jobs you don't want the person to be creative at all, do you want someone to be creative cleaning a toilet? Driving a bus? "Look at me everyone I'm driving with my feet!" Framing a house? Do you want the TSA agent with their hand down your pants to get creative?
What's new is the sudden increase in the suicide rate.
You do want someone who can critically think and problem solve, which, as I pointed out, bears a very strong correlation to creativity. Why are you limiting yourself?
Yes. Increase. Meaning it was a pre-existing problem, which has been exacerbated. Social media apps and smartphones offer a new and novel way to arrive at the destination, but the behaviors and situations that give rise to teen suicide aren't much changed. They're simply amplified.
yeah, the problem being that kids are cruel jerks even more than grown ups because their brains aren't developed and that other kids even more than grown ups can't handle it because their brains aren't developed either and the more they interact with each other the more some will commit suicide, before they mostly interacted at school but now its all the time online. The suicide rate went up like 30% in my state last year for all ages. Maybe TDS is becoming a terminal illness.