RE: How to Debunk "Guns Don't Kill People, People Kill People" [dTube]
the number of accidents is irrelevant and confusing, who cares? What is important is how many people die, that is very easy to count and for everyone to agree on the definition. Fatal gun accidents are at an all time low, about 71 times as many people are killed in car accidents annually.
She is prepared, she has a gun. Why would it be better for her not to have a gun?
Your concerns are hypothetical, I read a real story about a young woman who was an adept gun operator but her college forbade guns, so she got raped in a situation where she could have easily defended herself, in a parking garage, and then her rapist killed his next two victims after her. If she was allowed to be armed she could not only have prevented her rape but also saved their lives.If you were alone in a parking garage and some strange man or men approached you and you were armed you wouldn't put your hand in your purse and grasp your gun?
Of course a rapist does not need a gun, they just need a victim to not have one. And that is what your plan achieves.
Why wouldn't you care how dangerous guns are, if you are talking about gun control? It's the whole point of talking about gun control!
And fewer gun deaths doesn't mean fewer gun shootings. The counts of gun deaths are USELESS without the counts of gun accidents. They could just as well be explained by advantages in medicine.
"She is prepared, she has a gun"
That is a complete non sequitor. How does having a gun equate to being ready to shoot at a living target?
"Why would it be better for her not to have a gun?"
It's not about HER owning the gun. When she is able to legally own a gun, everybody else is too.
"If she was allowed to be armed she could not only have prevented her rape but also saved their lives."
Ok. What you are talking about sounds like, she didn't have a gun, so what you describe what would have happened, actually didn't happen. What is the word I'm looking for again... could it be... hypothetical?
That assumes a) that that is how rapes usually happen (it is most likely not, most rapes are perpetuated by someone you know and even in the cases it is not, I highly doubt it would take place in a parking garage. It's not a smart place to do that. She could just get in her car and then what?) b) That the group doesn't have any guns and c) that the same results can't be accomplished by her carrying a tazer/ pepper spray
What? I'm sorry, I can't follow, that doens't even relate to anything I said.
I don't think the number of people who choose to kill themselves with guns intentionally has much bearing on how dangerous guns themselves are, with any other object to see how dangerous that object is we would look at fatal accidents with them.
That could certainly be a factor but either way we have a record low number of fatal gun accidents and it is trending lower, fewer than 500 a year, there were 71 times as many fatal car accidents in 2015 and car fatalities, despite improvements in safety, are going up. This despite record numbers of gun sales.
Do you really imagine someone would put one in her purse and never think about whether she was ready to shoot it or not? Is that what you would do?
But the people who care if it is legal for them to own a gun or not are not the ones that anyone needs to be afraid of, it is the guys who would have one anyhow, and the guys who don't need one to hurt you. A man does not need a gun to be more powerful than a woman, a woman does need a gun to be more powerful than a man. Did you know that CCW holders commit violent crimes at a rate 1/6 of that of police officers?
how sexist, why should a woman carry a seasoning to defend herself from armed men? That was a true story of a woman raped on campus, a parking garage is just as sketchy as it feels, she was a champion pistol shooter.
those were supposed to be 3. and 4., not 1. and 2.
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