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RE: TIL - A terminally ill 14 year old girl won the right to have her body cryogenically preserved before she died
To bad medical science already knows this doesn't work.
But they will never tell the people, because, if the people knew, a lot of doctors would die.
The medical industry makes too much money, about a million dollars a person.
Good day all. I do not know how to reply after to much recursion has taken place.
But, I will try to answer all who commented.
Watch this video, it will explain a good portion of what I know; of where I get the information that allows me to state that cryogenically freezing a human doesn't work.
Does the Government Own Your Organs? What You Don't a Know Can Kill You
Afterwards, ask any questions you have. I really do not know what you do not know. (Then we can get into deep discussion about consciousness, and where it resides)
Solar panels are not that efficient per dollar yet. The payoff for solar panels is about 15 years in Kalifornia (land of sunshine, and high electric rates) So, you invest in a solar panel, and basically you are paying for 15 years of electricity up front. I believe it is a great investment, however it is a long time to recoup costs.
If you used miners run off of solar panels, you would have to compare costs of solar panels vs price of electricity in china or Greenland. And that is far worse than 15 years.
However, being knowledgeable about solar panels, you can acquire yourself some cheap. Just got to find them at swap meets and auctions. Laptops are great, because they already run off of 12V DC, so you can just hook the panels to the charge controller, to a battery, and battery to the laptop.
Sorry but if you are saying that you know it can't or doesn't work you don't understand what you are talking about. Further I don't understand what solar panels have to do with any of this unless you are suggesting them as a power source for the cryonics.
Under the comments, under my comments there was discussion of solar panels being used for mining and possibly cryo. Thus I commented upon the monetary feasibility of it.
Did you listen to the video about what happens to your organs the moment you die?
Do you understand the space where dreams take place?
Have you looked into OBEs and After death experiences?
I understand very well what I am talking about. (or I don't bring it up at all)
This falls under the area of: Americans are still searching for a cure for cancer!
To bad the Lame Stream Media doesn't report on any of the numerous cancer treatments or centers. When they do bring them up, they say that they are "unscientific".
Having worked in The Cancer Industry (CRI) - I have never seen a more wretched hive of scum and villainy.
Doctors know what happens at death. Its in so many many journals. It should be commonly known knowledge. It is blatantly obvious from ancient Buddhist texts and modern medical texts. I guess the AMA just has a bunch of doctors that want to play god.
I know exactly what happens biologically - I don't need a video for that. You can find videos that put forward any outrageous argument you want to make. I'm talking about science and specifically biology.
Yes but what you are putting forward are personal and religious beliefs. Nobody knows what happens at death and don't assume that I don't know about the process I am a lot more familiar with the process than you would know as it applies to thinks from a biological standpoint. I think it is a mistake to just declare that it is impossible though. We can only legitimately comment on the biological aspects the rest is purely imagination and speculation.
From the first moment that you create technology and science you are playing God. If you don't like that then you shouldn't be using things like computers and mobile phones - these are all about playing God.
There is no way of knowing if it will work or not. The future is a long time.
I don't believe scientists don't know if cryo preservation works or not. Surely they have toyed with it by now.
I find it absurd to preserve a body after one's death, but... to each his/her choice.
It is only absurd if you believe it is impossible to be brought back. Forever is a long time to assume there won't be sufficient advancement in science. It will probably be possible eventually. I think the bigger question would be if the bodies will still be preserved and the companies will still be around when it happens. That is the biggest part of the gamble in my opinion.
It's not what I believe that matters - I don't function on beliefs, anyway. I prefer experience, provable stuff. From what I've been reading - old spiritual books - it should be possible to be brought back. I'm not going to go there, it's a completely different topic.
I said it was absurd, because from the reincarnation perspective on life, she will come back at some point anyhow. She just won't remember - though I've read about children who do remember past lives and have proven it. So why stick to a sick body? Cos she'll be stuck with it for as long as it's preserved. Well...
"That is the biggest part of the gamble in my opinion." - Ironic, isn't it? From a different perspective, having her body destroyed would be her way to freedom, and an unencumbered access to a new body when the time is right.
So what does science say about your affirmation "The dead person isn't around to care about what happens." - where does that person go? What is that which goes?
The funny thing is that science is sooner or later forced to admit realities that oriental teachings have been telling us for thousands of years. I'll stick to the easiest example - the human aura - which has been proven to exist via Kirlian photography. However, before this photo technique, scientists were keen on denying auras and everything associated with.
And another thing - I'm not religious.
I'm happy to hear lab work is so far advanced; maybe for some people, that is good news. Myself, I don't care about staying here longer than necessary :D :D
"The aim is to not just bring the body back to life but to restore it to normal healthy function." Cool - great. I am just curious who will inhabit that healthily restaured body.
You say this and then you go on to talk about reincarnation. I'm talking about science and probabilities. None of what you have said is provable. Further I don't think commenting about future technology is anywhere near as far fetched as accepting paranormal phenomena as established fact.
Really. How do you know that? Like I said I prefer to deal in science rather than religious beliefs. You seem to have the answers already and know all this for sure. Where is the proof for that and how is this more believable than medical advancements bringing dead people back to life? The aim is to not just bring the body back to life but to restore it to normal healthy function.
We can already do it in ways that would have been considered impossible a century ago. I am always amazed how people are happy to believe in all kinds of paranormal theories but rather obvious inferences based on scientific progress are somehow nonsense. I suspect you don't read a lot of medical/biological research or news because the actual building blocks of what is required to do these sorts of things are already being established.
Paraphrasing what you yourself said, it doesn't matter what you do or don't believe - science will move on regardless.
If anything, people generally underestimate technological developments when it comes to biology.
The technology is moving so quickly, you can't say this isn't possible. My first job in biotech we were sequencing individual genes and it was a tedious process. It took Craig Venter, 10 years to sequence the first human genome and costs almost $3 billion USD. My last job in biotech I worked for a company called Illumina. We performed next gen sequencing and could sequence a human genome in less than a day and for only $1000. The only problem now is the bioinformatics. These instruments are cranking out so much data that it has become a bottleneck and it needs to be parsed. So, that is only within a 15 year time frame. So, where will technology be in 30 or 50 years from now? Hopefully we are all around to see it.
Yes and I think nanotechnology will make a lot of these things a possibility. It is a matter of when rather than if. Also it has a lot of applications in the living particularly in regards to reversing ageing.
Wow, there is somehow potential there to create a project or currency around that. A decentralized preservation chamber that works and maintains itself by renewable energy and prior investments.
That sounds crazy enough that someone may do it! Maybe you could somehow combine the cryo chamber with mining so that you get payed rewards in exchange for supplying electricity to cool the chamber.
@cryptofiend. Omg.
What if we were to create a miner that runs on solar energy. With the energy it Mines Steem and invests it, if the miner at some point dies it will use the funds it has saved to pay someone come and replace it in Steem, if it is making more profits it can also use it to purchase more miners for future maintenance and making sure it lasts forever.
I replied to you all back at the top (less indented)