This is one fruit that is better when it's good and ripe, not just colored up! It can really create dry-mouth if the berries aren't really good and ripe. They aren't quite as bad an an unripe American Persimmon, but still pretty drying. To me, once they are soft, they are a lot better! These plants spread all over Kansas during the time I was a kid there. They were used for windbreaks, but spread across the countryside so fast! It would be fun to make ketchup out of them, but I've never thought of that. Enjoy those autumn olives! :D