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RE: So, you hate money...

in #money6 years ago

When I read your response I "hear"... I am sad that life isn't fair, and I want to fix it. I think that displays a kind heart, good ideals. However, I guess where we part ways, is that I don't think it is supposed to be fair.

I don't think there is any way to make things equal. There will always be a runt. A big puppy that eats more... There is no "Fair". If you take money out of the equation, it will be... But you were born closer to the river that has the good fish. There is no fair, money or not. That is my view.

My Mom drank, she was abusive. I spent some years struggling... That isn't Paris Hilton's fault. I don't expect her to pay me for it.
I don't dislike that world you want to build, I am fine with you thinking about it. I am unwilling to participate or for you to act like your view is "righter" than mine.

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Yes, i agree.
We cant all be Einsteins, Jobs, or Platos.
Some of us will do little more than harvest crops from the field.
However, absent that labor the Einsteins would have to do it themselves, and would then have less time to ponder the stars.

No question some labor contributes more to the general welfare, but when that is valued higher, through monetary means, it sets in motion what we have now, priveleged, and disadvantaged, children.
By eliminating the money score card our contributions will be measured by the happiness of those around us.
I will be seriously happy when the plumber unstops my drain and he will be happy with the guy that invented the machine to automate that.
I am less happy when i have to work 7 days to pay for his one day's labor as he is unhappy about working 100 days to pay for the machine.

So, i will never fix enough cars to equal a surgeon saving one baby through performing a c-section, i just envision a world where we each do that for the love of the work without the attached monetary consequences of one c-section being equal to three years of fixing cars.

This being the case, the easiest way from here to FreeBorn Anarchism is to just keep what we have but instead of paying for stuff, everything is free.
The guy that supplies the builders continues to supply the materials, the builders continue to build the goods, the bums find something to contribute, and we all eat for free, even the previously wealthy.
It really could be that simple, buuuuuut,......cognitive dissanance says, 'No!!', very loudly, and folks mostly dont question their programming.
Just ask a muslim when he will be converting to scientology.

I know using affirmations makes me come off as arrogant, like i think im better than you because i have put together an attainable solution to most of society's ailments, but were you to meet me in person that would not be the impression you would leave the meeting with, id hope, anyways.
(I recognize that my cause needs a better messenger.)
In order to influence a crowd affirmations are required, crowds dont rationalize, they react. Source
When we begin to speak as individuals it is important to explain the whys of what one is saying.
I hope i can do that for you in a way that doesnt trigger any more automated rejections.
I just have far more practice with crowdspeak than interpersonal relations, i am highly antisocial, for reasons that may become more obvious were you to pursue a deeper understanding of 'me'.

I appreciate you and I appreciate where you are coming from. (Appreciation is different than agreement) I also respect the idea.

I think when I get triggered is when a gift economy person comes into my space and attacks my beliefs.
I would totally listen if it came from the place where you wrote the above.

The simple switch to... This is what I believe and why I believe it. I think, wow, that is interesting. When someone tells me how to think, I tend to respond with go away with your silly ideas.

We all have room to pitch our position better, in fact in this very article, I was attempting to trigger people and thus conversation. I get maybe I have some skills others do not. They were not given to me, they were learned to some degree. Although I fully acknowledge despite family issues I was raised a middle class, white American, and that does impact my point of view.

While you have not changed my mind, I have found some understanding of what you think and why.
Let's call that a win!

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