You Do Not Have to Pay Taxes on Cryptocurrencies Until You Sell Them

in #money8 years ago (edited)

Just to start off, I would like to point out that you can not currently trade STEEM for USD on any exchange, you can only trade them for Bitcoins.


In March 2014 the IRS made this announcement

https://www.irs.gov/uac/newsroom/irs-virtual-currency-guidance

But this was announced simply for the purpose of taxing Bitcoins, no laws were taken into consideration, they just basically said "People with Bitcoin have to pay Capital Gains tax, because we don't know how else to tax it". Now if you want to pay those taxes just to be on the safe side, go for it. But if you are willing to make a Federal Case out of it (Cryptocurrency is so new that no one has actually done this yet), here is the actual law regarding things like this:

US Constitution 16th Amendment: 

The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from  whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several States,  and without regard to any census or enumeration. 

USC Title 26 S 316:

 (a) General rule

For purposes of this subtitle, the term “dividend” means any distribution of property made by a corporation to its shareholders 

Now, when you receive STEEM, do you actually own any more of the website steemit.com than you did before you got STEEM? Can you get on an airplane and go look at the STEEM you have? If you own 51% of the STEEM available, do you now get to decide how Dan and Ned run the website? No. So according to USC Title 26 S 316, STEEM is not dividends.


USC Title 26 S 317:

 (a) Property 

For purposes of this part, the term  “property” means money, securities, and any other property; except that  such term does not include stock in the corporation making the  distribution (or rights to acquire such stock). 

USC Title 26 S 301:

(a) In general 

Except as otherwise provided in this chapter,  a distribution of property (as defined in section 317(a)) made by a  corporation to a shareholder with respect to its stock shall be treated  in the manner provided in subsection (c). 

This brings up some of the same questions as before. When you receive STEEM, do you now own any more of the website steemit.com than you did before? And if you acquire 51% of the STEEM available, do you get to decide how Dan and Ned run the website? No. So you are not a shareholder, and no stock is being distributed, and since no stock is being distributed, it can not be considered property that is being distributed to shareholders. As there are no shareholders.


USC Title 26 S 1221:

 (a) In general

For  purposes of this subtitle, the term “capital asset” means property held  by the taxpayer (whether or not connected with his trade or business),  but does not include— 

 (3) a copyright, a literary, musical, or artistic composition, a letter or memorandum, or similar property, held by— 

(A)  a taxpayer whose personal efforts created such property,

(B)  in the case of a letter, memorandum, or similar property, a taxpayer for whom such property was prepared or produced, or

(C)  a taxpayer in whose  hands the basis of such property is determined, for purposes of  determining gain from a sale or exchange, in whole or part by reference  to the basis of such property in the hands of a taxpayer described in  subparagraph (A) or (B);

That is the closest the tax law ever gets to calling a written code "Property" and it says that that kind of property is not included. 


USC Title 26 S 61:

 (a) General definition

Except  as otherwise provided in this subtitle, gross income means all income  from whatever source derived, including (but not limited to) the  following items: 

(3)  Gains derived from dealings in property;

That is the closest the tax law every gets to saying that such property should be taxed, but it says "Gains" derived, not the property itself.
 

So, what are Gains?

The Following case overturned a Law, not just an IRS announcement, where Congress tried to apply taxes to stock dividends, claiming that they were income.

Eisner V Macomber:

https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/252/189/case.html

"The fundamental relation of "capital" to  "income" has been much discussed by economists, the former being likened  to the tree or the land, the latter to the fruit or the crop; the  former depicted as a reservoir supplied from springs, the latter as the  outlet stream, to be measured by its flow during a period of time.  For  the present purpose, we require only a clear definition of the term  "income,"   as used in common speech, in order to  determine its meaning in the amendment, and, having formed also a  correct judgment as to the nature of a stock dividend, we shall find it  easy to decide the matter at issue. After examining dictionaries in common use (Bouv. L.D.; Standard  Dict.; Webster's Internat. Dict.; Century Dict.), we find little to add  to the succinct definition adopted in two cases arising under the  Corporation Tax Act of 1909 (Stratton's Independence v. Howbert, 231 U. S. 399,  231 U. S. 415; Doyle v. Mitchell Bros. Co., 247 U. S. 179,  247 U. S. 185),  "Income may be defined as the gain derived from capital, from labor, or  from both combined," provided it be understood to include profit gained  through a sale or conversion of capital assets, to which it was applied  in the Doyle case, pp.  247 U. S. 183-185. Brief as it is, it indicates the characteristic and distinguishing  attribute of income essential for a correct solution of the present  controversy.  The government, although basing its argument upon the  definition as quoted, placed chief emphasis upon the word "gain," which  was extended to include a variety of meanings; while the significance of  the next three words was either overlooked or misconceived.  "Derived from capital;" "the gain derived from capital," etc.  Here, we have the essential matter:  not a gain accruing to capital; not a growth or increment of value in the investment; but a gain, a profit, something of exchangeable value, proceeding from the property, severed from the capital, however invested or employed, and coming in, being "derived" -- that is, received or drawn by the recipient (the taxpayer) for his separate use, benefit and disposal -- that is income derived from property.  Nothing else answers the description.  The same fundamental conception is clearly set forth in the Sixteenth Amendment -- "incomes, from whatever source derived"-- the essential thought being expressed with a conciseness and lucidity entirely in harmony with the form and style of the Constitution. "

 "It is manifest that the stock dividend in question cannot be reached by the Income Tax Act and could not, even  though Congress expressly declared it to be taxable as income, unless it  is in fact income." 

 "Gibbons v. Mahon, 136 U. S. 549,  136 U. S. 559-560.  In short, the corporation is no poorer and the stockholder is no richer than they were before." 

"And if, for the reasons thus expressed, such a  dividend is not to be regarded as "income" or "dividends" within the  meaning of the Act of 1913, we are unable to see how it can be brought  within the meaning of "incomes" in the Sixteenth Amendment, it being  very clear that Congress intended in that act to exert its power to the  extent permitted by the amendment."

"Just as we deem the legislative intent  manifest to tax the stockholder with respect to such accumulations only  if and when, and to the extent that, his interest in them comes to  fruition as income, that is, in dividends declared, so we can perceive  no constitutional obstacle that stands in the way of carrying out this  intent" 

"[The 16th Amendment]  did not extend the taxing power to new  subjects, but merely removed the necessity which otherwise might exist  for an apportionment among the states of taxes laid on income.  Brushaber v. Union Pacific R. Co., 240 U. S. 1,  240 U. S. 17-19; Stanton v. Baltic Mining Co., 240 U. S. 103,  240 U. S. 112 et seq.; Peck & Co. v. Lowe, 247 U. S. 165,  247 U. S. 172-173. "

"In order, therefore, that the clauses cited  from Article I of the Constitution may have proper force and effect,  save only as modified by the amendment, and that the latter also may  have proper effect, it becomes essential to distinguish between what is  and what is not "income," as the term is there used, and to apply the  distinction, as cases arise, according to truth and substance, without  regard to form. Congress cannot by any definition it may adopt conclude  the matter, since it cannot by legislation alter the Constitution, from  which alone it derives its power to legislate, and within whose  limitations alone that power can be lawfully exercised."

 "We are clear that not only does a stock  dividend really take nothing from the property of the corporation and  add nothing to that of the shareholder, but that the antecedent  accumulation of profits evidenced thereby, while indicating that the  shareholder is the richer because of an increase of his capital, at the  same time shows he has not realized or received any income in the  transaction."

"It is equally true that, if he does sell, and  in doing so realizes a profit, such profit, like any other, is income,  and, so far as it may have arisen since the Sixteenth Amendment, is  taxable by Congress without apportionment."

 "Thus, the government contends that the tax "is  levied on income derived from corporate earnings," when in truth the  stockholder has "derived" nothing except paper certificates, which, so  far as they have any effect, deny him present participation in such  earnings.  It contends that the tax may be laid when earnings "are  received by the stockholder," whereas he has received none; that the  profits are "distributed by means of a stock dividend," although a stock  dividend distributes no profits; that, under the Act of 1916, "the tax  is on the stockholder's share in corporate earnings," when in truth a  stockholder has no such share, and receives none in a stock dividend;  that "the profits are segregated from his former capital, and he has a  separate certificate representing his invested profits or gains," "

"We cannot disregard the essential truth  disclosed, ignore the substantial difference between corporation and  stockholder, treat the entire organization as unreal, look upon  stockholders as partners when they are not such, treat them as having in  equity a right to a partition of the corporate assets when they have  none, and indulge the fiction that they have received and realized a  share of the profits of the company which in truth they have neither  received nor realized."

"Thus, from every point of view, we are brought  irresistibly to the conclusion that neither under the Sixteenth  Amendment nor otherwise has Congress power to tax without apportionment a  true stock dividend made lawfully and in good faith, or the accumulated  profits behind it, as income of the stockholder.  The Revenue Act of  1916, insofar as it imposes a tax upon the stockholder because of such  dividend, contravenes the provisions of Article I, § 2, cl. 3, and  Article I, § 9, cl. 4, of the Constitution, and to this extent is  invalid notwithstanding the Sixteenth Amendment."


 Now, having read all that, you can volunteer to pay the taxes the IRS claims are owed. But you have no obligation to not sue them to get your money back, or any obligation to pay at all and can present the law and Supreme Court Case above to a Federal Judge under Federal Question Jurisdiction.


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IRS is bogus..no your rights and you win.

Great post....I've been wondering about this off and on for a bit.

I noticed you guys were talking about being incorporated and stuff. If you are a 501(c)3 Religious Organization, and the Organization were to say buy a bunch of mining machines, or post members articles on the Organizations steemit account, and the coins are going to the Organization for Organizational use, it would not be taxed. Even after sale.
https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/397/664/case.html

And Corporations now have the ability to claim religious exemption as well.
https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/573/13-354/
A Judge in the Hobby Lobby case even said that allowing that ruling to pass through the Supreme Court was opening up a can of worms that would allow Corporations to basically claim exemption from anything they wanted, but it was still decided in favor of Hobby Lobby.

No way! Omg thank you for that case law! Wow, that's truly amazing I had no idea they let a Corp slip through. That really does sound like opening a can of worms to me. I'm gonna take a read thanks for that.

I've been using private trusts to funnel crypto around in private but moving it into public is where I pay a small amount of corporate tax, getting that down to zero would be awesome. Ohh thank you @marsresident I'm gonna give you a follow and any other tips and tricks you have I'm all ears. If you ever wanna have a nice law discussion on tax liability mitigation (or what ever) id love to have that conversation as well!

So if i had 30 btc to buy a car...i wouldn't have to pay my taxes to purchase that car?

so buy gold with bitcoin and swap the gold for USD?

You can trade Bitcoin for USD, just not STEEM. But you could also buy Gold and sell that for USD if you wanted. Either way, once you have actually derived value from these bits of code, then it is taxable as income. As the value has been derived from the code, but they can not just tax you for having bits of code until some form of income is derived from it.

Wow I love this ! Thank you I was wondering about it.

I think I get what you're saying – that there aren't laws to support that income from cryptocurrency has to be paid.

But I'll merely point out that the IRS document you shared says "The Internal Revenue Service today issued a notice providing answers to frequently asked questions (FAQs) on virtual currency, such as bitcoin." (emphasis mine)

So, if I'm understanding correctly, it was not "announced simply for the purpose of taxing Bitcoins." It pretty clearly includes all cryptocurrencies.

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