RE: Protectionist Trump Policies To Crash Dollar, Gold and Bitcoin to Soar
If we start getting actual celebrities do you think they will do different than him? Are you going to down vote them for this opinion as well so they might turn around (depending upon how reasonable they are) and trash steemit to all those who follow them?
We are likely to end up with some asshole celebrities if steemit does well. That doesn't mean they will lack followers.
There is a difference between NOT SUPPORTING (i.e. not voting on it) and ATTACKING (actively voting against it). I don't support a lot of things as well. I read them, I don't vote on them. Some things like sports I don't even tend to read. I'd like steemit a lot more without sports related posts. Yet that is just me. I am interested in seeing steemit succeed, if I were powerful enough to make much of a dent then down voting sports would not be helping steemit.
I do know you and I have discussed this before, but that doesn't mean I won't occasionally try to see if I can change your mind. ;)
Some will some won't. The ones milking rewards I won't support. Celebrities who just want exposure without actually participating here can easily decline rewards.
There are other celebrities here such as Neil Strauss or Charlie Shrem who actively participate and contribute. I do support them.
Downvoting one post is the same as upvoting every other post. I'd rather see the large number of actual participants and minnows each rewarded a tiny bit more than one person using an autopost/autovote system.
I will have more to say on this latter point soon, but it won't be specific to TDV.
@full-steem-ahead I couldn't reply because of nesting depth, but hopefully you will see this:
Only when the downvote pushes the post value negative (which will show, and pay, as zero), and even then only when the person making the downvote has a higher rep score than the author (not the case here). When downvoting to reduce a payout (but the payout remains above zero), assuming your rep score is higher than the author's, the effect is to reduce the degree that rep is increased by the post, but not to actually decrease it.
Well thanks for your response. I hope you realize if I challenge you that is not out of dislike, or lack of respect. We are both different people and it is only natural sometimes we will not agree. I don't like the downvote and redistributionist aspect, but I also can see your point on the false advertising in the footer. Thus, I will do what I do when I do not support something, and just not vote on it.
I don't think they're "the same", but I believe I understand what you're getting at by that statement. I myself oppose down-voting and have never used it to the best of my recollection. It goes back to what many mothers tell their kids, if you don't have something nice to say, don't say anything". That principle is well expressed by withholding your vote.
That said, there is value in expressing a contrary or negative opinion or perspective in the right context and without aggression or malice. The exchange between you and @dwinblood has value to the community and is a model of respectful communication of contrary perspectives.
Down-voting may be beneficial to the community when a user is "clearly out of line". Of course being "clearly out of line" is highly subjective. I would draw that line at when harmful aggression is initiated but that's just my opinion. I can also empathize with the perspective that down-voting can be a useful tool to ostracize "bad" people from the community that rarely if ever contribute anything the community values. I would hope those cases should be more rare than common however.
Also, doesn't down-voting negatively affect a user's rep score? If so down-voting is definitely different from simply not voting at all which has zero impact on the rep score. Whether or not down-voting benefits or hinders Steemit's platform reputation is not obvious to me, just as I can't say that it improves or weakens the accuracy of an individual's rep score.
Disagreement with or challenges to opposing views is something I respect even when (or especially when) I'm the target of it. Thanks for the feedback.
Anytime.