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RE: MB Update - Catch Up With the Recent Comings and Goings of Minnowbooster!

in #minnowbooster6 years ago

thanks for this informative post.
I really need help from you.
I am making great quality content. I believe my content deserve hundreds of Steems , but unfortunately I am making $0 on my posts.
Please guide me . Let me know what I need to do to succeed on steemit, other than quality content, because I am already doing that.
Thanks

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Right there with ya sister! Keep tha faith always hunniebunz as nobuddie beats tha booster! OooYa!!
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Without buying votes for exposure you could try asking large account, polity, to look at your blog ensuring your content is of similar content to theirs or is something they might find interesting based on what they post. Many probably will as long as it's something they would find interesting and you ask nicely after some response to their post. making sure its asked in a non spammy way.

The easy way is buying votes but of course you run financial risk that way.

I make quality content but its not been seen or read , despite having 850 followers on Steemit. I have seen content of lower quality getting huge earnings. This means that there is something that needs to be fixed with either steemit platform , or with what I am doing. I tried using some upvoting services like : hugewhale, gangsteem, sportic e.t.c. but I didn't find them useful either. I don't want to go around the big accounts, begging for votes. I am not that kind of person. I have got some self-respect. I believe If I make quality content, I deserve good returns, which is not happening. I ll try some other paid upvoting services , if it works out well , that would be great, otherwise I ll stop wasting my time on creating quality content on Steemit, for free.
Thanks for your suggestion , but I don't think its fair for the content creators to work on producing quality content and then go around doing flattery and buttering of more successful accounts in hope of getting some exposure and some possible returns.
I think Steemit needs to improve its system of curating the quality content.

Firstly I agree 100% that the reward pool is not given anywhere near proportionally to good content. It's steemit's biggest problem and always will be, I was near to calling it a ponzi a couple months ago when I saw the state of the problem.

The reason is simple, why give money away when you can just self upvote. Everyone does it as its 'free' money. And there is no solution to that that will ever be implemented, suggestions have been made that I believe could help but they wont fix it.

The distribution of wealth on this platform is worse than in real life, and thats saying something. The rich also don't give stuff away, they would not be rich is they did. So all of those high paying posts of poor quality are voting rings/bots so the whales consolidating their power or people paying for votes for a profit. Basically people have not upvoted them because they like them but for financial reasons.

I was not (trying to anyway) describe begging I was simply suggesting to make friends with a whale/dolphin. Make friends through a community maybe? You need to upvoted others a lot sometimes as well.

You need to ignore the follower count. This platform has probably 30 accounts per actual user, maybe more. The bot ones follow everyone and follow those that post more. You know you actual followers through comments and upvotes and views.

Generally though you seems to be doing very well for someone whos not whale sponsored. You NEED whale sponsorship to make money, there the only votes that can make you money. It's the harsh truth that even if 100minnows like your post you will earn basically nothing. 1 whale loves it and you can go full time steemit and quit your day job.

30 accounts per person ??? are you sure ??? thats hopeless ... I thought Steemit strictly allows 1 account per person. How did you know that there are people with multiple accounts on Steemit??? If that is the case then, Steemit has no future.

Many people have multi accounts, you need to know some coding and you can basically create them for free. This puts those without coding at a disadvantage for sure. Many of the accounts are follow bots, many people have bots working creating shit posts across many accounts. Many have bot accounts that write stuff like 'nice post', 'thanks for the information' and follow a few users etc... Many accounts are not used as well. Many users have 1 or 2 but some users literally have 100's.

As for the free accounts made without coding you get from signing up they are restricted and manually approved but it doesn't stop all the multi ones made.

Steemit has many problems but that's why the community has stepped up with groups to try and help users. I choose to stay around because of the few who put effort into the platform.

Thanks for this insight. Though it’s really disappointing :(
Do you think Steemit will do anything to eliminate the multiple fake accounts in future??? Otherwise Things are hopeless with the scenario you have described.

Sorry for all the doom and gloom. The answer is no though. The way blockchains work means no one can delete them. The only thing that can stop it is the community downvoting the accounts either manually or through bots. This would be expensive to do however :( many people do downvote like this though at great financial cost to themselves and try to help the platform so there is hope. @steemcleaners is the biggest group that do this and they have turned the platform around already. Much work to be done though :/

No worries. Truth is truth. Thanks a lot for sharing genuine and honest information.

"the community has stepped up with groups to try and help users"

Hmm, hi, not passive agressive or anything i'm just a new user and would like to know what do you mean, what groups are you talking about?

steemcleaners are the main group but there are many anti-spam bots. If you want to truly learn about everything involving steemit you would need to take a degree, I research into it regularly but have only scratched the surface of the big ocean.

Thank you. I actually have more background in systemic optimization, and am really serious about empowering humanity through blockchain. It's definitely not Kin and steemit might not be it either, but i'm really grateful for all the work establishing these systems and figuring them out. At some point i'll need to consult witu thought leaders from these communities to better analyze the needs and how the nextgen will answer that. F9r now, i'm glad i can be learning and contributing here, and that my contributions be blockchain secured... :)

Steemit doesn't disallow having multiple accounts, I have two... One of my serious posts (this one) and another I rarely use for my less serious posts (like dMania memes) or to try s STEEM service I'm not sure of its safety.

I don't think it's bad to allow multiple accounts per person, a perosn can make an account for each niche they write for, or maybe an account for each service they provide, it'll be more organized that way.

What I think is bad is that some are making 30 accounts and use 29 of them to upvote themselves... Ouch!!

I understand your point of having different accounts/blogs for writing about different topics. But Steemit is different, from other blogging , because here you earn by interaction, with other accounts. I believe its wrong to have multiple accounts on Steemit, because of the possibility of fake interaction (comments, upvotes, resteems) that results in earnings. Most of the people are here to make money, if they are allowed multiple accounts, they will exploit this opportunity and will create fake interactions to earn money.
A rule in management says , "When something can go wrong, it will go wrong".
Steemit is a great concept , but if Steemit wants to be taken seriously, it must get rid of all the flaws and loopholes in the system, and one of these loopholes is multiple accounts.

I can see what you mean, still... I don't know.

"When something can go wrong, it will go wrong."

I like that quote~

By the way, one of the things steemit system discourages making multiple accounts is that the SP will get divided on them (if you do all the things in one account or multiples you'll get the same total SP which if you really want to be useful you'd want to be in one account) but what you said is right: People can interact with themselves and make it seem like they're popular.

That's sad, but I think steemit (or any other website) can't prevent people making multiple accounts they can just discourage/restrict them (just look at other social media,) and since the website main advantage is "freedom" (money too, but the attractiveness of this system that there's no ruler, just few rules.)

Well, that's only what I think though... I know it'll be more money focused if it prevented these things, but that will make it less decentralized.


By the way, a centralized (probably not a blockchain) website that works like steemit with many differences is Yours.org if you want to check that out.

Thank you for the contribution, @pandasquad. It looks like i have some catching up to do; i joined this year, made a couple posts and wondered about the lack of organic response. I just came back in the last few days to reattempt to engage, so I still don't know much - the dynamics you describe, though, make total sense. I look around and see that it is definitely not the most articulate content, nor the most valuable, that is curated. This dynamic runs contrary to the interests of the community itself; it solely serves an aggregate of individual interests and lacks longterm vision.

I'm just a minnow in the world of crypto, but i dove in deep since last summer and started investing in "bleeding-edge" dubious cryptos from the shadowy ANN corners of bitcointalk, and somehow made a few k starting from nothing, and - coming in from the integrative perspective of a singularity geek, evolved into a yogi, articulated through coaching/strategic consulting -

I saw all the different features and niches being covered, darksend/instasend/MN/DPoS/sidechains/atomic swaps and so on - and picture clicked. How to integrate all the functions in an organic way to support - a blockchain that is the common property of all, while masterfully avoiding the tragedy of the commons - i can't say too much, not yet.

It's unfortunate for everyone that Steemit isn't it yet. It's fortunate for me, though, and for you possibly, because i fully intend to build it, and if the idea resonates you can totally get in.

And if you are a whale reading this and considering "scam or not", just frigging fly me in so we can talk. There's much more money in this than a stupid ticket but time is critical.

Dang, i don't want to sound spammy especially because i just deeply resonated with your comment and i started writing without forethought. But i'd like you to know how serious i feel about this - "would-you-leave-a-pile-of-money-on-fire" serious.

Either way i appreciate your articulate contribution, and look forward to following you :)

The crypto boom of 2017 attracted me as well. I love the idea of steemit and its the first of its kind so it has many flaws but if people give it a chance it will succeed. I have heard tails of how bad it was before and it's gotten much better already, even since I joined. Some people who join now don't know much about crypto which is very good as ultimately they are the ones that will make it a social media platform.

In short as long as genuine people like you are joining and people don't give up on it, despite it's flaws, it will work. At the very least it's a worse version of reddit but you might earn a few cents. I recommend you check out busy.org, its basically a much better UI for the same blockchain and safe to put your password into.

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