True Forced Loneliness (MGTOW)

When I first heard the term and learned that it meant dudes that couldn't get dates and were bitter about it. This reminds me of a group of nerdy guys in high school that were angry all the time. And when I was dating women, they would get really angry with me and the girls I was with.

I didn't realize that they were building hatred towards women because women wouldn't give them the time of day and there I was with a different girlfriend two to three times each of my high school years. So what are my thoughts on the TFL or True Forced Loneliness guys? On the surface, they appear to be older, poorer and less educated then the majority MGTOW out there. Please correct me if I'm wrong. Those are just the guys I see online. I know a few True Forced Loneliness guys in real life and they are engineers and computer programmers and they are overweight and women don't look at them at all. Even the overweight and morbidly obese women disregard them completely.

But the main difference between my friends unable to get dates and the TFLers is they love to talk about conspiracies. I'm not sure how the lack of companionship is forcing true force loneliness guys to start talking about the New World Order and that feminism is out to get them. God knows I hate feminism just as much as them.

The similarity between MGTOWs and TFL guys is that MGTOW is that they both go from a state where they are attracted and hopeful of relationships with the opposite sex. TFLers start hating women because they don't give them the time of day. MGTOW men when they take the red pill may start hating women because women gave them the time of day. The difference is that many MGTOWs make peace with female nature to a great extent. But I see TFL guys reaching the same conclusion as mgtow men from the opposite end. As men what are we to do? Some men that are perpetually single beyond their own choice are miserable and lonely and then there are men in relationships that are miserable. You can often see the pain in their eyes and many men going their own way are miserable. Being in relationships sucks and not being in them sucks as well because you're not getting emotional needs met. But the danger of having a girlfriend is that you might get her pregnant or she will probably ask you for marriage at some point if you are with her. Even if she says she doesn't want it at the beginning of your experience dating. The situation is clear that there is no simple answer. And if there was an answer it wouldn't suit every man because we are all so different. Some guys are perfectly happy not getting affection and attention from women.

This is where I think TFL went terribly wrong. They used women to define who they were and when they couldn’t get women in their lives, they became terribly bitter and started using conspiracies theories to define themselves and their new value system. Their hatred of women and the government is how they found their identity, at least that’s how I look at it from the outside.