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RE: Logic Discussions: Statheism - The New World Religion
Ps: I know the divine right to rule is nonsense. Unfortunately, there is no other justification around for forcing someone to act without consenting to that action.
Also, re voting, it doesn't matter how you vote unless you are in the top 10% of society (Google: corruption is legal in America, there is a video that explains the evidence and cause) . They are the ones who decide if an action happens via the corruption you and I despise.
Finally, you seem to assume socialism can work. If so, explain Venezuela, Mao's China, Soviet Russia, the early days of the Jamestown colony in Virginia, and all the other forms of socialism that failed spectacularly.
(1) Communism cannot work on large scales, because it interferes with individualism. It works spectacularly at the small scale - as with families, the Apostles, and Kibbutzes. Communism is not socialism, and if you define it to be so, then I do not argue for that form of socialism. I argue for the European model. Denmark would be a fine example.
(2) Venezuela failed for several reasons. Socialism there replaced right-wing government, which had utterly destroyed the economy and was close to collapse. Google "caracazas". So right-versus-left - neither has a great success in Venezeula. Several years ago, the right-wong won landslide majorities in parliament, and things got worse, not better.
Why? I'd like to say the extra rightwingishness of the govt.; but the real answer is the same as for why Chavez failed. Their economy lives on oil, and they are subject to the whims of the world price of oil and on the goals of the oil companies. Chavez nationalized the oil, so the oil companies set out to break venezuela. Also, the media there is controlled by right-wing media corporations. There is no doubt that the corporations can break any nation on the planet that they choose to. Fall in line or else. Also, the corporations rule America, so America sets out to break those nations too - look at the various embargoes designed to do just that. Simply put, its a full-scale war between the capitalists and anyone who defies them. Examples are made. Happened in America also. America today is the history of a broken people who have been beaten into submission by the corporations. So its a long story, and one that you are just going to dismiss, so why do I bother? According to you, Denmark is a failed state - it has to be, because its socialist. Venezuela today is better than it was when Chavez took over. According to you, it was better under the right-wing dictatorship. You are so caught up in your labels and prejudice to see the facts.
The overriding reality is that Venezuela prospers or fails in response to the price of oil and the cooperation (or otherwise) of the powerful elite. In Europe, the elite cooperate, so socialism works.
Jamestown? I think that failed because it was based on corporatism. "Jamestown was established by the Virginia Company of London as "James Fort" on May 4, 1607 (O.S., May 14, 1607 N.S.),[3] and was considered permanent after brief abandonment in 1610."
Either that or it failed because of malaria and isolation.