Good answer @kuriacos.

I suppose my key point is that while this is theoretically very true in real human engagements even those that takes no position has a position. And often these lack of position people are the ones that tend to be so focused on fight any position someone else knows, that they do not realise how they themselves by taking an opposing position, even if it is to take no position is actually an ideology.

You indeed touch on some very good points about the nature of history and evolution in the social domain, and I like your theories. But one can also at times look to hard for context, and thus start creating post facto context. At the time Hitler came to power, there was many different ideologies as there are today, all trying to deal with similar issues of industrialisation and wealth equality and distribution, albeit on nation, or individual levels. My view is that I do not mind anyone's ideology, as long as it leaves room for opposing ideologies. Certain ideologies leave by their very nature no room. other ideologies as a matter of principle give that room, but can be manipulated to groups wills and thus essentially move of from their actual underlying value system. Hijacked democracy is no longer democracy, and monopolistic capitalism is no longer capitalism. These are of course simplified views and we can spend many an evening discussing this, preferably over a bottle of wine. For me right and wrong is less important, but the fact that I get to engage and share my thoughts with thinkers like yourself is far more important

Thanks for your time and effort to express your views and share your knowledge. It is appreciated.